Originally Posted by Trollheart

No we're not clueless. The fact is that, if a mod is involved in a discussion, and something is said that they believe ban-worthy, then they should dissociate themselves from the debate, perhaps drop a warning, not permaban the person they were arguing with. And anyway, you know Frown had a big arrogant smile on his face when he hit the button: he was just waiting for the chance. That's what he's llke; abuse of power. It was very personal with him, and that's wrong. Mods are supposed to be impartial.

Jess, you'll get nothing unbiased out of Batty (nor, probably me) as we both have our minds made up. I'd suggest talking to other mods - WWWP seems to know all about it - and see what their position is on it. TBF, neither Batty nor I are mods (perish the thought!) and neither of us have access to the mod cave, so we don't really know how it went down. Frown may have told Bat but that would of course be weighting the story on his side, so to get the full story I imagine speaking to the others. It just seemed like a dick move to me, but then, what do I know?

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.