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Originally Posted by JayJamJah
No, you too can own property and even his if you having something he views as equal value to the property you wish to acquire. I can say for a fact, I'd never have worked as hard as I did throughout my life without the incentive of owning property and goods to make my families life easier.
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All that operates under the assumption that I have the means to own property. In a capitalist society there's always going to be an oppressed under class who can't own property and don't have the means to "pursue happiness" which is subjective; even though you guys seem to be arguing it's objective and requires the right to own wealth and property (but somehow socialism is the materialistic philosophy?)
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RE: Marxism\Socialism
I appreciate but do not share your perspective, I agree with Inuzuka Sksword in his assessment of the capitalism as leaving the most available for individual subjective pursuit of happiness. You and I both have the choice to own property or not, drive a vehicle or not, save or spend money, invest or hoard.
The basis of my philosophy is simple too. The more options you allow to a collective society the more people you will satisfy.
The more people that are satisfied the more that are working productivity and too their potential, the more of those you get the better society you have.
There are flaws surely but I can't imagine anyone could be unselfishly opposed to a system alloting the most options for the most people.
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The problem is capitalism doesn't allow the most options for most people. It provides a state of welfare for the elite and the lower classes are stuck in a society where they have to play by the rules of said elite. Capitalism requires for the institutions of society to be under the control of the few, the ones with the most wealth. Capitalism is inherently fascist.