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Originally Posted by sleepy jack
All that operates under the assumption that I have the means to own property. In a capitalist society there's always going to be an oppressed under class who can't own property and don't have the means to "pursue happiness" which is subjective; even though you guys seem to be arguing it's objective and requires the right to own wealth and property (but somehow socialism is the materialistic philosophy?)
The problem is capitalism doesn't allow the most options for most people. It provides a state of welfare for the elite and the lower classes are stuck in a society where they have to play by the rules of said elite. Capitalism requires for the institutions of society to be under the control of the few, the ones with the most wealth. Capitalism is inherently fascist.
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I've never accused socialism as being materialistic, I said it's impractical and unfair.
There is no one in a capitalist society that can not advance in class, this is a FACT I will swear by. Doubting me is scoffing at years and years of first hand eye witness evidence. Explain how I went from nothing to where I am today if capitalism and democracy are inherently fascist.
To someone in my position you're argument sounds like sour grapes. You seem unwilling to give the system a try and stay resigned to your presumption of an unlevel playing field to great to overcome.
Wealthy people in America became wealthy because of their families hard work and sacrifice in the vast majority of cases. Those families made those sacrifices to ensure their children and children's children would have that advantage.
No one is holding you down or holding you back.
Here's how I know I'm right: I know hundreds of people who have left their home country to come to America, I know two (off the top of my head) who left America for greener pastures.
This might start going in circles Ethan, I respectfully disagree with a lot of your assertions and hope you find their error in your thinking as you get older. Not so that I am wrong, but so that you may have a life as blessed as mine.
Wayfarer don't bother, I won't read it anyway, you've been far to rude arrogant and in my opinion ignorant lately for me to bother with you anymore.