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Old 04-02-2010, 08:08 PM   #38 (permalink)
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One way to think of it.

To be forgiven you must repent. Just because God is forgiving of evil-doers when they sincerely repent of their sins doesn't mean he can tolerate them forever. If that were the case then those who serve him faithfully, by his standards, would see that they didn't really need to. If God, who created the sinners in the first place, wants them to live by his moral standards of what is right and wrong but they repeatedly don't, even after being warned (and in the flood story, they were warned by Noah and his family of the impending flood) - he has to take action.

So, although God is, and his subjects are commanded to be, forgiving of people when they er and ask sincere forgiveness from their wrong course... this doesn't mean that when somebody does something wrong and shows no remorse it should be ignored or accepted.

This isn't to say human being should take matters into their own hands when it comes to forgiveness. If somebody ers you and doesn't care, ask forgiveness, show remorse, etc - you should let go of that. You, as an imperfect human don't have the authority God has, and you want to be peaceable with your fellow man.

Just my understanding.
A few comments came to mind as I read this. I don't really want to derail this thread further, so I'm not really expecting answers to these questions. I just wanted to throw them out there as food for thought:
  • What makes you think God "has to take action"? God doesn't have to do anything. He could just as easily be eternally forgiving of transgressions instead of being wrathful toward those transgressors.
  • Considering that God, being perfect and all-powerful, would have known exactly how humans would behave when he made them, is it really reasonable for him to punish them for following the nature he gave them? When, say, a car has a dangerous design flaw, is it the fault of the individual vehicles or is it the fault of the manufacturer?
  • What about all the little kids and babies God killed with the flood? Are we as readers of this story really supposed to believe they were evil and worthy of death?
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