Dotoar

I think that it's about established by now (in this thread, I mean) that indie is quite established by now (as a genre, I mean). Just as pop != popular music, rock != rock'n roll and electro != electronic music, I'm sure that most people would agree that indie != independent music. Thus the whole discussion of the artists relation to the market is redundant and not at all indicative of the sound itself.

I'd say that, if one were to pigeonhole it once and for all, indie is a modern development of artrock, occasionally peppered with punk and/or new wave, but (thankfully) not necessarily.

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