Nirvana- nevermind album review (ambient, metal, pop, rock, ballad)

RapSucks · 05-21-2007, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

The 80s had plenty of good bands too, the Smiths, Joy Division, Fugazi, Dinosaur Jr, Tom Waits, etc. I don't feel like listing anymore, but I think those bands are better than all those crappy rock bands like the Red Hot Chili Peppers and System of a Down.

edit: I got beat to it <.<

Wow, you just called the Red Hot Chili Peppers a crappy rock band. That shows how much you know about music you f**king retard. I can understand if they don't agree with your tastes, but a crappy rock band?!?!?!

sleepy jack · 05-21-2007, 04:39 PM

1. Drop it on the name calling.
2. I do know quite a bit about music.
3. Yes, I think they're a crappy rock band. They were okay before they started watering down their music and making annoying anthems for rock radio and watered down rock 'ballads'. I don't think Blood Sugar Sex Magik or Californication are good albums and the last one was just awful.

cardboard adolescent · 05-21-2007, 04:41 PM

I'm sorry, but I'd take grunge and the rise of alternative metal over hair metal and new wave any day.

**Janszoon** · 05-21-2007, 04:46 PM

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Sorry but I disagree about RHCP. I guess I'm not funky enough.

What I like about their 80s stuff is actually the punkishness. They were so much more fun back then. I remember being so disappointed when "Blood Sugar Sex Magik" came out.

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Also, I wasn't listening to the radio in the 80's because I was under 6 years old, but how many of those bands got radio play? I'm talking about mainstream music, that's what Nevermind was and what it primarily affected. (Although underground punk would not be as popular today if Nirvana didn't come along.) Underground music is a whole different issue.

Jane's Addiction, The Pixies, The Red Hot Chili Peppers, Joy Division, The Smiths and Killing Joke got an fair amount of radio play. As did, of course bands, like REM and U2 (yes, believe it or not, they were once really good bands).

And let's face it, most of what was on the radio in the 90s was crap like Color Me Bad and Boyz II Men. The bands you're talking about were mostly relegated to the one rock station in town.

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And if I hear "Jane Says" one more time in my life I may kill myself!!! Definitely one of the worst (most annoying) songs I've ever heard.

I could see how someone could get tired of that song. But "Jane Says" isn't the end-all be-all of Jane's Addiction any more that "Under the Bridge" is the end-all be-all of the Chili Peppers.

**Janszoon** · 05-21-2007, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cardboard adolescent

I'm sorry, but I'd take grunge and the rise of alternative metal over hair metal and new wave any day.

But would you take grunge and the rise of alternative metal over punk, postpunk, hardcore, grindcore, thrash, death metal, industrial, goth and the rise of noise?

RapSucks · 05-21-2007, 04:54 PM

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And let's face it, most of what was on the radio in the 90s was crap like Color Me Bad and Boyz II Men. The bands you're talking about were mostly relegated to the one rock station in town.

True and did Nirvana influence them? No. Just like The Beatles didn't influence Disco. I said, in my opinion Nirvana saved music, and what I meant by that is they gave me something to listen to. Not rid the world of bad music. And man am glad I didn't have to listen to Boyz II Men.

**Janszoon** · 05-21-2007, 05:04 PM

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True and did Nirvana influence them? No. Just like The Beatles didn't influence Disco.

Actually I think one could make an argument that The Beatles were a pretty big influence on the Bee Gees. Similarly, Niravana influenced assorted 90s pop crap like Alanis Morissett.

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I said, in my opinion Nirvana saved music, and what I meant by that is they gave me something to listen to. Not rid the world of bad music.

Well, I'm glad they gave you something good to listen to. They weren't a bad band just, from my perspective at the time, not anything particularly new. There were already plenty of good rock bands around at the time. All that happened when Nirvana became big was that all the jocks in my school stopped listening to hair metal and started listening to grunge. No biggie one way or the other for me. The people who were big musicheads just continued listening to the same stuff we were already listening to.

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And man am glad I didn't have to listen to Boyz II Men.

Heh-heh. That's because, unlike me, you weren't in high school in the early 90s.

cardboard adolescent · 05-21-2007, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

But would you take grunge and the rise of alternative metal over punk, postpunk, hardcore, grindcore, thrash, death metal, industrial, goth and the rise of noise?

As far as grindcore, trash, and death metal go, I could do without them, but as has been said, we're talking about popular music here. Plus, the nineties gave us shoegaze, noise pop, math rock, trip-hop, the golden age of rap, post-rock, dark ambient, lots of noise rock, etc.

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Similarly, Niravana influenced assorted 90s pop crap like Alanis Morissett.

I'd say that's a stretch.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 05-21-2007, 09:39 PM

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First of all I hate every band you mentioned in 1990. Second of all, YOU SKIPPED A WHOLE F**KIN DECADE!!! Which was the decade in which I got in to music and the decade from which most of the music I listen to comes from. Foo Fighters, Red Hot Chili Peppers, System of a Down, Stone Temple Pilots, The Offspring, The Mighty Mighty Bosstones (who had a lot more good music than just "Impression that I Get"), old Weezer, old Green Day, Queens of the Stone Age, and even bands that I don't care for that much like Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, and even some Dave Mathews (and trust me I'm NOT a DMB fan), it's all a lot better than any thing that came the 10 years previous to Nirvana. The 90's rocked! But that's just my opinion.

If i'm comparing music now to what it was like pre Nirvana I don't need to reference the 90s , You said they changed music YOU back it up. Mentioning a few stadium rock bands from the mid 90s proves nothing, If they changed music for the better NOW then please show me where.

RapSucks · 05-21-2007, 10:07 PM

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If i'm comparing music now to what it was like pre Nirvana I don't need to reference the 90s , You said they changed music YOU back it up. Mentioning a few stadium rock bands from the mid 90s proves nothing, If they changed music for the better NOW then please show me where.

I think I mentioned more than a "few stadium rock bands" in the mid 90's. I mentioned as many 90's alternate rock bands as I could think of within a reasonable amount of time. Some of which are still alive and kicking today. There is a lot of rock music today I don't particularly care for, but that doesn't mean it's as bad as the 10 years previous to Nirvana. I'm sorry, I can't stand the majority of 80's mainstream music!! It was a horrible decade for music. That's just my opinion.

As I explained in a previous post without Nirvana, I wouldn't have most of the music I listen to today. That's why I said they saved music IN MY OPINION. Nirvana accomplished a lot more than a lot of bands in modern rock and certainly more than any mainstream 80's band accomplished.

05-21-2007, 04:41 PM	#53 (permalink)
cardboard adolescent ;) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,503	I'm sorry, but I'd take grunge and the rise of alternative metal over hair metal and new wave any day.