The Beatles - Abbey Road (1969)

Key · 08-14-2012, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kyb15

Thanks for you review!

I think some people here find their joy in bashing legendary music albums and saying they prefer lesser known stuff.

Legendary or famous doesn't necessarily mean it's better than anything released before it. Besides, Abbey Road was their second to last album they released, i'm sure there's something "legendary" about any of the previous albums.

kyb15 · 08-14-2012, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki

Legendary or famous doesn't necessarily mean it's better than anything released before it. Besides, Abbey Road was their second to last album they released, i'm sure there's something "legendary" about any of the previous albums.

I wasnt saying Abbey Road is Beatles' finest record. I was saying it is a groundbreaking album that deserves all its critical acclaim and commercial success. I was disagreeing with, what was in my opinion, low rating and also with the opinion that The End dominates the rest of the album.

Key · 08-14-2012, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kyb15

I wasnt saying Abbey Road is Beatles' finest record. I was saying it is a groundbreaking album that deserves all its critical acclaim and commercial success. I was disagreeing with, what was in my opinion, low rating and also with the opinion that The End dominates the rest of the album.

How was it groundbreaking if it wasn't even one of their first albums?

**Janszoon** · 08-14-2012, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kyb15

I wasnt saying Abbey Road is Beatles' finest record. I was saying it is a groundbreaking album that deserves all its critical acclaim and commercial success. I was disagreeing with, what was in my opinion, low rating and also with the opinion that The End dominates the rest of the album.

Since when is 8/10 a low rating?

kyb15 · 08-14-2012, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki

How was it groundbreaking if it wasn't even one of their first albums?

What is that got to do with anything?

Key · 08-14-2012, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kyb15

What is that got to do with anything?

It has everything to do with it...

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ground·break·ing

Adjective:
Breaking new ground; innovative; pioneering.

If Abbey Road were one of the first Beatles releases, I would agree that it was a groundbreaking success. Though, with albums such as Sgt Pepper and Revolver coming before it, I can't agree that Abbey Road had really that much to do with how influential they were in terms of pioneering.

kyb15 · 08-14-2012, 02:48 PM

I am not gonna argue with you. I have already told my opinion.

I could tell you that Revolver is not groundbreaking because it came after Rubber Soul.
I could tell you that Sgt. Peppers Lonely Heart Clubs Band is not groundbreaking because it came after Magical Mystery Tour.

But I dont care...

Bottom (and top) line is: Abbey Road is a masterpiece in my book.

kyb15 · 08-14-2012, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kyb15

I am not gonna argue with you. I have already told my opinion.

I could tell you that Revolver is not groundbreaking because it came after Rubber Soul.
I could tell you that Sgt. Peppers Lonely Heart Clubs Band is not groundbreaking because it came after Magical Mystery Tour.

But I dont care...

Bottom (and top) line is: Abbey Road is a masterpiece in my book.

Actually I am wrong. Magical Mystery Tour came after Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club. Oh well... It doesnt really matter to me anyway.

Key · 08-14-2012, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kyb15

I am not gonna argue with you. I have already told my opinion.

I could tell you that Revolver is not groundbreaking because it came after Rubber Soul.
I could tell you that Sgt. Peppers Lonely Heart Clubs Band is not groundbreaking because it came after Magical Mystery Tour.

But I dont care...

Bottom (and top) line is: Abbey Road is a masterpiece in my book.

I have no problem accepting that you think Abbey Road is a masterpiece. But there's no way it could be groundbreaking if it's working off the ground that was already created by albums before it.

Flyingpig437 · 08-15-2012, 12:23 PM

funny this thread has come back up. I've had a bit of a flame with someone on a Beatle website about this album. Here's a flavour.
"You come on a Beatles fan forum* accuse John of blatantly cheating on 4 songs on one album (without proving it) and you tell me to deal with it, whats your next trick ? tell me my Mother was a whore and ask me to deal with that haha"

"Ok mate heres the deal, the Beatles are my gods, my heroes, they were Beethovens of the 60's....you can tell me all day long that you dont like them or their music and I will accept that as music is subjective, you can tell me that the Beatles are sh*t, I will accept that that is your opinion, but if you come on here (a great Beatles forum) and tell me that John plagiarised 4 songs on Abbey Road you'd better be able to f***ing well prove it, and thats just it, you cant, you have offered no proof whatsoever, just your opinion, the melodies of Sun King and Albatross (both of which I have loved since 1969) are completely different...completely."

"you have come on a Beatle fan forum and said that 4 of Johns songs on imo THE greatest album ever made (in not just my opinion but endless pro's opinions) are sh*tty rip offs , and yet you cant show me the parts of the melody that John stole"

*I've been on it for a year btw.

08-15-2012, 12:23 PM	#80 (permalink)
Flyingpig437 Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 534	funny this thread has come back up. I've had a bit of a flame with someone on a Beatle website about this album. Here's a flavour. "You come on a Beatles fan forum* accuse John of blatantly cheating on 4 songs on one album (without proving it) and you tell me to deal with it, whats your next trick ? tell me my Mother was a whore and ask me to deal with that haha" "Ok mate heres the deal, the Beatles are my gods, my heroes, they were Beethovens of the 60's....you can tell me all day long that you dont like them or their music and I will accept that as music is subjective, you can tell me that the Beatles are sht, I will accept that that is your opinion, but if you come on here (a great Beatles forum) and tell me that John plagiarised 4 songs on Abbey Road you'd better be able to f*ing well prove it, and thats just it, you cant, you have offered no proof whatsoever, just your opinion, the melodies of Sun King and Albatross (both of which I have loved since 1969) are completely different...completely." "you have come on a Beatle fan forum and said that 4 of Johns songs on imo THE greatest album ever made (in not just my opinion but endless pro's opinions) are shtty rip offs , and yet you cant show me the parts of the melody that John stole" *I've been on it for a year btw. __________________ Proper music for proper people!!!

08-14-2012, 02:48 PM	#77 (permalink)
kyb15 Groupie Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 6	I am not gonna argue with you. I have already told my opinion. I could tell you that Revolver is not groundbreaking because it came after Rubber Soul. I could tell you that Sgt. Peppers Lonely Heart Clubs Band is not groundbreaking because it came after Magical Mystery Tour. But I dont care... Bottom (and top) line is: Abbey Road is a masterpiece in my book.