Christmas Card from a Hooker in Minneapolis; A Tom Waits review

TheBig3 · 11-08-2010, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by James

Mine would certainly be Murder In The Red Barn. That track never gets old.

I think what makes that song so great is that, for one thing its not terribly far-fetched, and secondly that it doesn't take many players to pull it off.

I remember on one of those terrible VH1 lists of the top metal songs, they had either Green Day or Nirvana listed somewhere on there, and Dee Snider said something like (i could have all of this wrong) "I liked that they trimmed the fat" referring to the fact there were only 3 of them.

Why it matters to me that only a few people make that escapes me, but I think its that so few of them can make such an environment with such little resources.

Engine · 11-09-2010, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

So did you like the review or did it make you reevaluate your memories of Bone Machine?

I liked your review. Honestly most of them are too long to accomodate your haphazard way of internet writing (i.e. no spelling or grammar checks). Sometimes your points/ideas get lost on me by the time I've translated what a particular sentence means, for example. I know it's just the internet but you should still at least skim over what you've written before you post it if you want people to read your shit.

But I found your Bone Machine review easy to read and it's full of interesting comparisons and apt descriptions. Mentioning Faulkner is always a plus. Overall, I think your review's a reflection of what's good about the album.

It didn't make me reevaluate my memories of Bone Machine (or Waits in general) but it did inspire me to listen to it again.

**Janszoon** · 11-09-2010, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

Anyone have a favorite Bone Machine track?

"Dirt in the Ground", "Black Wings", "Going Out West", and "In the Colosseum" are probably my favorites on the album. Great instrumentation and lyrics on all of them.

TheBig3 · 11-09-2010, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Engine

I liked your review. Honestly most of them are too long to accomodate your haphazard way of internet writing (i.e. no spelling or grammar checks). Sometimes your points/ideas get lost on me by the time I've translated what a particular sentence means, for example. I know it's just the internet but you should still at least skim over what you've written before you post it if you want people to read your shit.

But I found your Bone Machine review easy to read and it's full of interesting comparisons and apt descriptions. Mentioning Faulkner is always a plus. Overall, I think your review's a reflection of what's good about the album.

It didn't make me reevaluate my memories of Bone Machine (or Waits in general) but it did inspire me to listen to it again.

The day the posters of MusicBanter understand me is the day I hang up my keyboard. Some curses we just have to bare. (bear?...**** it)

Engine · 11-09-2010, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

The day the posters of MusicBanter understand me is the day I hang up my keyboard. Some curses we just have to bare. (bear?...**** it)

Haha - 'bear' is correct.
And it's a poor writer who blames his instrument .. or whatever.
Are you saying that posters on other forums understand you better?

TheBig3 · 11-09-2010, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Engine

Haha - 'bear' is correct.
And it's a poor writer who blames his instrument .. or whatever.
Are you saying that posters on other forums understand you better?

You know I brushed off the first jab, but its looking like you want a boxing match.

I'm not blaming anyone other than myself. My problem is that I always know what I mean and few others do. I suppose I could work on changing that, but for the same reason Jewel doesn't get her snaggletooth fixed, I don't care to change my approach. I'm afraid it will sully my craft.

If you want clear, you'll have to read an instruction manual. I don't understand much of what O'Hara's going for, but I still read him. He's a good mood-maker. We are what the stars have made us, I see to reason to question their judgment.

Engine · 11-09-2010, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

You know I brushed off the first jab, but its looking like you want a boxing match.

I'm not blaming anyone other than myself. My problem is that I always know what I mean and few others do. I suppose I could work on changing that, but for the same reason Jewel doesn't get her snaggletooth fixed, I don't care to change my approach. I'm afraid it will sully my craft.

If you want clear, you'll have to read an instruction manual. I don't understand much of what O'Hara's going for, but I still read him. He's a good mood-maker. We are what the stars have made us, I see to reason to question their judgment.

I really didn't even mean to make a jab, let alone a stick-and-move.

Write however you like, it's your writing.
But your comment did make me wonder if you think Musicbanter's posters are less intuitive or cognitive or post-modern readers than other sites' posters. That's all.

Btw - how about a review of Alice?

TheBig3 · 11-10-2010, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Engine

I really didn't even mean to make a jab, let alone a stick-and-move.

Write however you like, it's your writing.
But your comment did make me wonder if you think Musicbanter's posters are less intuitive or cognitive or post-modern readers than other sites' posters. That's all.

Btw - how about a review of Alice?

I really like the posters here. If I have any criticism its that too much goes on in the non-music section, and possibly that the classics get blown a little too often, but overall this is one of the better communities I post in, and the only music forum I post in.

Me not being understood isn't a sore spot, but it is one of those frustrating things where you sometimes think "jesus, is it even worth it?" I think when speaking it translates a little easier since I can gauge reaction and get an idea of where other people are coming from. For all its benefits, text can really **** you.

Also, Alice it is.

Unrelenting · 11-10-2010, 06:18 PM

Alice has to be one of Waits' most melancholy albums. I've had a hard time getting into it.

**Janszoon** · 11-10-2010, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Unrelenting

Alice has to be one of Waits' most melancholy albums. I've had a hard time getting into it.

Replace "most melancholy" with "worst" and I totally agree with this post.

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Unrelenting True to username Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,100	Alice has to be one of Waits' most melancholy albums. I've had a hard time getting into it. __________________ My lastfm