Originally Posted by tore

I too feel that it's a moderators job to abide by the rules he or she enforces and to keep an eye on other moderators that they do the same. To me it's obvious that the more you break the rules, the less fit you are to moderate.

So it goes without saying that I think moderators should be more careful than the rest of us when it comes to dishing out insults. When I first read this thread, I have to say I thought Janszoon did a fantastic job as a moderator, being diplomatic and approachable, treating the concern seriously, taking time to write proper replies etc. I and others notice this and it reflects positively on the whole mod team. Vanilla's contribution to the thread, however, is little else than making the mods seem a little worse (opposite of Jans' approach, being dismissive, undiplomatic, offensive).

I really like you Vanilla and I'm sorry to offend you, but it's how I feel. I'm not saying you shouldn't be a moderator, only that you should not forget to also moderate yourself.

edit :

I'm not just thinking of the "he can **** off" comment in this thread. Erica addressed a concern which you initially responded to like this :



Which is dismissive, unapproachable and very disrespectful when someone turns to you with what they think is a legitimate concern.

Originally Posted by Rjinn

I'm going to speak as an experienced moderator of a big forum site, it was paramount to be an example of our rules to all members. However, I may see the difference being a Namco business/help/product advertising site to a general site for music, so strictness was unwavering.

Honestly I can understand the frustration of members constantly questioning and arguing over decisions and actions, it can be hell. However we always were approachable enough to respond reasonably without any aggression and in a calm collective manner.

Moderators here at least don't have double standards. They may not be strict, but I don't see them treating others' responses differently than the way they treat theirs. So far, I see this forum being run efficiently with very little loss of control. That's the most important thing.

Originally Posted by Trollheart

(Climbing on white charger... where's me lance? Oh, there he is! Come on, Lance!)

While most of you are quietly berating Vanilla for her response --- and I agree, it was not appropriate, particularly in a somewhat flammable atmosphere as was the case here --- I would like to point out that in my view it was a RARE lapse in judgement, which Vanilla will probably agree is the case, and she should not be taken too much to task over it. We all know how good a mod she is, and one little slip should not call into question her fitness for the job she has already proven without arguement that she can carry off in a fair yet strict manner, always being mindful of the feelings of others.

Plus, she said she was drunk. Who hasn't done something they don't regret while under the influence? (How did I get this traffic cone? I wasn't even OUT last night??)

So basically, it's one mistake and I think should be accepted as such. It's not like she's forever going around doing things like this and regularly abusing members, new or old. Personally, I'd trust her as I would any of the mods here, comment notwithstanding.

Originally Posted by Rjinn

My comment wasn't directed at you personally Vanilla. I don't have a problem with the way you work. Just a general comment about the discussion of moderating at hand.

No mod is ever going to be perfect.

Originally Posted by bandteacher1

I type whicked fast,