Hate Crimes (The Police, irish, quote)

sweet_nothing · 04-13-2008, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bruise_violet

uuuh yes hitler?

that's how the whole genocide started, a THOUGHT.

Propaganda should be punished, verbal racial/sexist/sectarian abuse should also be punished.

Didn't you know that it is a legal matter if someone is racial abused in the workplace?

I already brought that up...

bruise_violet · 04-13-2008, 01:46 PM

i didn't read the whole thread because i am a lazy woman

when I was in london a group of men started on me for being irish and pinned me down on the ground and poured stuff all over my head I think they should have been hung drawn and quartered.

~~The Unfan~~ · 04-13-2008, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bruise_violet

uuuh yes hitler?

that's how the whole genocide started, a THOUGHT.

But the thought in and of itself was incapable of doing harm to anyone. A thought can't in and of itself be detrimental to the well being of others and therefore a thought can't be punished in any quantifiable means.

Not to mention that if you punished someone for merely thinking something I'm sure you could make a case for all of us to be doing time.

ProggyMan · 04-13-2008, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bruise_violet

uuuh yes hitler?

that's how the whole genocide started, a THOUGHT.

Propaganda should be punished, verbal racial/sexist/sectarian abuse should also be punished.

Didn't you know that it is a legal matter if someone is racial abused in the workplace?

Yes, he should be punished. For attempting genocide. Not for hating Jews. And the people who attacked you should go to jail for assault. Not for why they assaulted you.

Dr_Rez · 04-13-2008, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan

Yes, he should be punished. For attempting genocide. Not for hating Jews. And the people who attacked you should go to jail for assault. Not for why they assaulted you.

Exactly, people are allowed to hate Jews, (i myself am Jewsh), blacks, Mexicans...anything they want. Its there god given right. But when they act upon that then they are punished for the crime committed not the motives behind it. It is only fair.

If you voted yes, you really believe someone who stabs someone for being black is worse than someone who stabs someone because they just feel like it? Thats absurd, one can think whatever the hell he pleases, regardless of what it is.

bruise_violet · 04-13-2008, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan

Yes, he should be punished. For attempting genocide. Not for hating Jews. And the people who attacked you should go to jail for assault. Not for why they assaulted you.

Well the fact is they wouldn't have assaulted me if I wasn't Irish, so would you just like me to stop being Irish so those poor souls and people like them don't have to be punished?

Without the thought there is no crime. People who practice racial/homophobic/gener related/religious hate are worse than your average yobs, yes indeed, so punish them more.

Because hate SPREADS so they are encouraging others to do so

simplephysics · 04-13-2008, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bruise_violet

Well the fact is they wouldn't have assaulted me if I wasn't Irish, so would you just like me to stop being Irish so those poor souls and people like them don't have to be punished?
Without the thought there is no crime. People who practice racial/homophobic/gener related/religious hate are worse than your average yobs, yes indeed, so punish them more.
Because hate SPREADS so they are encouraging others to do so

I think you missed the point he was trying to make

bruise_violet · 04-13-2008, 02:08 PM

No I understand, you can't be punished for what you think...

So if a man thinks of raping someone it's OK, as long as he doesn't do it?

ProggyMan · 04-13-2008, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bruise_violet

Well the fact is they wouldn't have assaulted me if I wasn't Irish, so would you just like me to stop being Irish so those poor souls and people like them don't have to be punished?

Without the thought there is no crime. People who practice racial/homophobic/gener related/religious hate are worse than your average yobs, yes indeed, so punish them more.

Because hate SPREADS so they are encouraging others to do so

So you're in favor of policing people's thoughts? And you're against freedom of expression? Every crime is motivated by hate/greed/lust etc, people get punished for what they do, it's not for us to judge people's motives. Self defense is an exception of course.

sweet_nothing · 04-13-2008, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bruise_violet

i didn't read the whole thread because i am a lazy woman

when I was in london a group of men started on me for being irish and pinned me down on the ground and poured stuff all over my head I think they should have been hung drawn and quartered.

What bunch of cunts, no girl deserves that, because you're Irish, times like this I almost miss the IRA

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04-13-2008, 01:46 PM	#62 (permalink)
bruise_violet we became a carcass! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 383	i didn't read the whole thread because i am a lazy woman when I was in london a group of men started on me for being irish and pinned me down on the ground and poured stuff all over my head I think they should have been hung drawn and quartered. __________________ in love with the stumps, in love with the bleeding! in love with the pain that you now feel...

04-13-2008, 02:08 PM	#68 (permalink)
bruise_violet we became a carcass! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 383	No I understand, you can't be punished for what you think... So if a man thinks of raping someone it's OK, as long as he doesn't do it? __________________ in love with the stumps, in love with the bleeding! in love with the pain that you now feel...