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Old 05-29-2018, 04:38 PM   #11371 (permalink)
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Old 05-29-2018, 04:42 PM   #11372 (permalink)
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Wait, who's the person in this conversation that sounds like that? Because...uh...
You and Jans?
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Old 05-29-2018, 04:44 PM   #11373 (permalink)
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Got it. Sounded like you were describing yourself since you're the only one rejecting that something is a stereotype here.

My guess is that you think I take it more seriously than I actually do. It's a ****ing sitcom star. Let em all rot.
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Old 05-29-2018, 04:44 PM   #11374 (permalink)
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They were planning on cancelling the show long before this and knew that this would be a socially acceptable way to execute that than the ambiguous reason of her not being good PR or having a sustainable fan base.
Oh, so you were just being a smartass, haha. I did answer you, idk.
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Old 05-29-2018, 04:46 PM   #11375 (permalink)
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Oh, so you were just being a smartass, haha. I did answer you, idk.
Not really, you detailed how Roseanne was an exception in the stereotype that she utilized.
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Got it. Sounded like you were describing yourself since you're the only one rejecting that something is a stereotype here.

My guess is that you think I take it more seriously than I actually do. It's a ****ing sitcom star. Let em all rot.
I never rejected the stereotype. I was criticizing the tweet's racial context in a vacuum. I don't watch TV or participate in social media, how the hell am I supposed to know she's a long time racist? My entire point was the media can cherry pick racism from nearly any derogatory comments and takes full advantage of it, which I find massively insincere (and I know you do to).

Youre the one with the "I dont see it" and "Maybe its easier for racists to see"...
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Old 05-29-2018, 04:51 PM   #11377 (permalink)
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I never rejected the stereotype. I was criticizing the tweet's racial context in a vacuum. I don't watch TV or participate in social media, how the hell am I supposed to know she's a long time racist? My entire point was the media can cherry pick racism from nearly any derogatory comments and takes full advantage of it, which I find massively insincere (and I know you do to).

Youre the one with the "I dont see it" and "Maybe its easier for racists to see"...
What is "context in a vacuum"?
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Not really, you detailed how Roseanne was an exception in the stereotype that she utilized.
No, youre missing the nuance: someone actually looking like the thing they are being compared to versus someone being compared to something to dehumanize them.

One is a joke/insult that has a sense of reality behind it and the other is obviously and intentionally racist
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I never rejected the stereotype.
You just spent a whole page saying that Roseanne comparing the whoeverthe**** to a monkey wasn't based in a stereotype but on a real observation.

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My entire point was the media can cherry pick racism from nearly any derogatory comments and takes full advantage of it, which I find massively insincere (and I know you do to).
Yep.

Here's a point: approaching situations with that kind of thinking will lead to you denying obviously racist things because of their association to the media.

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What is "context in a vacuum"?
That tweet. Those words.. nothing else, is it racist or just a lame joke?

You're ideology says: No black person can ever be compared to a monkey because it has a history of being a derogatory slur used against black people.

Mine says: If someone looks like something, regardless of the history, it's okay to call them out on it.

You're basically arguing that we can't call a grindy Hitler if he looks like Hitler, because history, and I'm calling bullshit.
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