The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

No, youre missing the nuance: someone actually looking like the thing they are being compared to versus someone being compared to something to dehumanize them.

Why can't it be both?

One is a joke/insult that has a sense of reality behind it and the other is obviously and intentionally racist

"Intentional racism" lol.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Mine says: If someone looks like something, regardless of the history, it's okay to call them out on it.

People need to be called out for looking like monkeys?

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by Frownland

You just spent a whole page saying that Roseanne comparing the whoeverthe**** to a monkey wasn't based in a stereotype but on a real observation.

No he was saying that given everything and only everything provided in the thread it's reasonable that this joke might have been innocent because, A. this woman does kinda look like a Planet of the Apes ape, and B. this woman looks so not black that she has probably gotten white privileges.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

No he was saying that given everything and only everything provided in the thread it's reasonable that this joke might have been innocent because, A. this woman does kinda look like a Planet of the Apes ape, and B. this woman looks so not black that she has probably gotten white privileges.

Pretty sure that B would upset Mr. V.

So DWV's argument boils down to "Oh come on! You knew what I meant!" because racism is only ever lynching people and calling them ******s.

[DwnWthVwls]

Originally Posted by Frownland

Why can't it be both?



"Intentional racism" lol.

It can definitely be both, but that is the distinction I've been making the entire thread. I've haven't argued once that Roseanne is not racist, as I've already admitted I know **** all about her. My entire point the words in that tweet, in and of themselves, are not racist. If I somehow didn't explain that well enough, that's my fault.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

that tweet, in and of themselves, are not racist.

Yes you did explain it poorly. You are also not correct.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by Janszoon

So do you think racism is a great idea or what?

It tickles me.

[Janszoon]

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

That tweet. Those words.. nothing else, is it racist or just a lame joke?

How is that "context in a vacuum"? If it's in a vacuum, there is no context.

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

You're ideology says: No black person can ever be compared to a monkey because it has a history of being a derogatory slur used against black people.

Mine says: If someone looks like something, regardless of the history, it's okay to call them out on it.

You're basically arguing that we can't call a grindy Hitler if he looks like Hitler, because history, and I'm calling bullshit.

Actually, what I was trying to do initially was explain the context to you since you legitimately seemed to not understand. Then I realized you were being disingenuous so any kind of serious conversation was a waste of time.

But by all means, continue inventing a position for me and attacking it. Seems like a worthwhile pursuit.

[DwnWthVwls]

Yes I am. That quote is not correct though, cause I messed up the editting.

[Janszoon]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

It tickles me.

Are you going to answer the question?