The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

**Frownland** · 06-26-2018, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii

it's possible they refused her based on their own personal feelings toward her

What caused those feelings, Kiii?

Anteater · 06-26-2018, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

You should read the case.

I did. Hence what I posted. Them being gay wasn't the problem. What he had a problem with was what they requested him to express visually on the cake. If a straight person or anyone else had asked him to do a cake like that, he would have refused to do it regardless of what their actual orientation was.

Key · 06-26-2018, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

What caused those feelings, Kiii?

Yes. Politics. But they could have easily based it on her personally. The knowledge of her came as a result of her being in politics. Doesn't mean their decision is based on politics specifically. It's based on her as a person.

**Frownland** · 06-26-2018, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

I did. Hence what I posted. Them being gay wasn't the problem. What he had a problem with was what they requested him to express visually on the cake. If a straight person or anyone else had asked him to do a cake like that, he would have refused to do it regardless of what their actual orientation was.

Uh, you should read the case since it doesn't mention any design specifics. He denied them when he found out that it was going to be used for a gay wedding and he saw it as an endorsement.

**Frownland** · 06-26-2018, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii

But they could have easily based it on her personally.

Ok. It wasn't.

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Doesn't mean their decision is based on politics specifically.

If you make decisions on how you treat someone based on their political actions, then it is based on politics specifically. It's not rocket science, Kiii.

Key · 06-26-2018, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Ok. It wasn't.

Then yes, politics had involvement. I'm not disagreeing in this particular case. But that doesn't mean if someone gets refused service and they just happen to be in politics, I don't agree that politics always has a part in it.

**Frownland** · 06-26-2018, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii

Then yes, politics had involvement. I'm not disagreeing in this particular case. But that doesn't mean if someone gets refused service and they just happen to be in politics, I still don't agree that politics always has a part in it.

That would be a great point if it addressed anything that was said here.

Key · 06-26-2018, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

That would be a great point if it addressed anything that was said here.

I'm at a loss then. I at least said my point.

Key · 06-26-2018, 11:59 AM

I will say that I don't entirely disagree that politics could have had an impact on the decision, but my perspective is that it wasnt. However, I wouldn't be surprised if it was reported that politics had a play in their decision. So Frown, I do understand what you're getting at.

**Frownland** · 06-26-2018, 12:29 PM

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I'm fine with not requiring the notice of other services though tbf.

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Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	I will say that I don't entirely disagree that politics could have had an impact on the decision, but my perspective is that it wasnt. However, I wouldn't be surprised if it was reported that politics had a play in their decision. So Frown, I do understand what you're getting at.