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Old 12-13-2018, 11:34 AM   #15851 (permalink)
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I didn't realize that you guys were so frail and brittle and in need of coddling. Do you REALLY have to be spoon-fed EVERYTHING? You guys disappoint me so much and so often that it really makes me worry about you.
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In my teens and early twenties part of the excitement of the punk rock (and hip hop) scene was genuine danger.

Anyway, I think the family members of the fire victims in Oakland are just being vindictive calling for harsh, like decade(s) long, sentencing.

I actually think the parents of school shooting victims have more reason to insist that the principals be locked up. Especially since school is compulsory. But I never heard anyone say that.

At the Ghost Ship show everyone was there of their own free will and even though no one expects to diaf it was still an obviously somewhat dangerous scene.
So the audience is more to blame for the lethal conditions than the owners?
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Old 12-13-2018, 11:51 AM   #15852 (permalink)
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speaking of dangerous shows

(translated text from Sweedish Newspaper)



Peter Murphy thrown out of own show in Sweden reportedly for throwing bottles at audience
Wow... what a dumbass. Glass bottles are kinda heavy and dangerous.
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Old 12-13-2018, 11:52 AM   #15853 (permalink)
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I was at a concert back in '06, The Delicious Rox Festival. Someone in the crowd threw a glass bottle on stage and hit the drummer from American Headcharge. He chucked it back and accidentally hit a little girl, sending her to the hospital. Then the promoters shut the whole thing down a few minutes later. We all got fucked out of a great show.
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Old 12-13-2018, 11:55 AM   #15854 (permalink)
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So the audience is more to blame for the lethal conditions than the owners?
No but the audience chose to be there. I think in a scene like that everyone is responsible for their own safety.
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That sounds like the same logic that fuels the "she shouldn't have worn revealing clothes if she didn't wanna get raped" argument.
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Old 12-13-2018, 11:58 AM   #15856 (permalink)
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I was at a concert back in '06, The Delicious Rox Festival. Someone in the crowd threw a glass bottle on stage and hit the drummer from American Headcharge. He chucked it back and accidentally hit a little girl, sending her to the hospital. Then the promoters shut the whole thing down a few minutes later. We all got fucked out of a great show.
Why the **** was a little girl there?
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Old 12-13-2018, 11:59 AM   #15857 (permalink)
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part of me is like what a dick move

the other part of me is like

Make Punk Potentially Fatal Again

especially since he fought the guards afterwards that's just fantastic
I totally think it’s cool.
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I don't get what's cool about irresponsibly violent acts.
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Why the **** was a little girl there?
It was an all-ages outdoor festival.
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Old 12-13-2018, 12:19 PM   #15860 (permalink)
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I don't get what's cool about irresponsibly violent acts.
Violence is cool. We don't play video games that simulate hugs. Well, most of us don't.
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