The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

innerspaceboy · 10-28-2016, 06:10 PM

Who at Google decided it would be a good idea to teach three AI neural networks to develop their own encryption technology that we can't read?

Have they ever watched a single sci-fi film?

Google AI Created Its Own Form of Encryption/

**Frownland** · 10-28-2016, 06:23 PM

Ray Bradbury was scared of typewriters. I'm not sure if scifi should be viewed as a documentary.

innerspaceboy · 10-28-2016, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Ray Bradbury was scared of typewriters. I'm not sure if scifi should be viewed as a documentary.

Dystopian novels are intended to be cautionary tales, not instruction manuals.

**Frownland** · 10-28-2016, 06:37 PM

Idunno, given that AI didn't exist yet at the time of many of those stories' conception, I don't think that it's as relevant of a message. That's abusing the slippery slope fallacy.

I'm just saying that AI isn't inherently good or bad, and good stories need conflict so it's more likely that you'll only see the bad.

**Janszoon** · 10-28-2016, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Ray Bradbury was scared of typewriters.

Where did you hear that?

**Frownland** · 10-28-2016, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Where did you hear that?

"Scared" was hyperbolic. I saw a reading of his in high school and he said that it took him a while to move on from handwriting books and stories to typing them because it wasn't natural or something like that. He later conceded that it was just easier to use the typewriter and just started using that.

I don't think the guy understood exactly what technology was.

**Janszoon** · 10-29-2016, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

"Scared" was hyperbolic. I saw a reading of his in high school and he said that it took him a while to move on from handwriting books and stories to typing them because it wasn't natural or something like that. He later conceded that it was just easier to use the typewriter and just started using that.

I don't think the guy understood exactly what technology was.

I think he was kind of a Luddite, I'm pretty sure he never had a driver's license. But the writing thing might just have been personal preference with how he was comfortable getting ideas out. There are a lot of writers who have very specific ways they write.

OccultHawk · 10-29-2016, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Ray Bradbury was scared of typewriters. I'm not sure if scifi should be viewed as a documentary.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't at least be a little more cautious. CRISPR, cloning, AI, weaponry...

Lisnaholic · 10-30-2016, 08:07 PM

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That doesn't mean we shouldn't at least be a little more cautious. CRISPR, cloning, AI, weaponry...

Yes, plenty of sci-fi stuff ends up coming true. H.G. Wells' First Men on the Moon, Captain Kirk's cordless telephone, and of course George Orwell accurately predicting a reality show called Big Brother. Uncanny!

Chula Vista · 10-30-2016, 08:59 PM

Remember the tablets in 2001?

As well as Skype.

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	Ray Bradbury was scared of typewriters. I'm not sure if scifi should be viewed as a documentary. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	Idunno, given that AI didn't exist yet at the time of many of those stories' conception, I don't think that it's as relevant of a message. That's abusing the slippery slope fallacy. I'm just saying that AI isn't inherently good or bad, and good stories need conflict so it's more likely that you'll only see the bad. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	Remember the tablets in 2001? As well as Skype. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”