The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by Frownland

I have an idea of their goal but it's really long and I don't want to get into it tbh, I'm just pointing out that it's still politically driven.

Please tell me you understand that the goal is Islamic global domination.

You understand that global domination and on into space is goal of capitalism and America by default, right?

So far my guess is this guy just got sick of not killing people. Is that Low T?

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Please tell me you understand that the goal is Islamic global domination.

you understand that the goal is Islamic global domination.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by djchameleon

Maybe to honor the deaths of the people that died during the natural disaster.

It isn't usual tradition but started with Bush when he did it for Hurricane Katrina.

I didn't know Bush did that. I was in the path of Katrina when it hit (not creamed but in the hurricane) and that cracks me up. What ****ing good does moving a piece of cloth around do? If they made diapers out of the flags that would have at least had some value.

[Wpnfire]

It's perfectly understandable why this incident is getting the most attention if the guy used automatic weapons. Ownership of automatic weapons is tightly regulated (but not illegal).

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by Frownland

you understand that the goal is Islamic global domination.

Good one!

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by Wpnfire

It's perfectly understandable why this incident is getting the most attention if the guy used automatic weapons. Ownership of automatic weapons is tightly regulated (but not illegal).

It's also the deadliest mass shooting in American history and we've had a few. It should keep our attention until Trump tweets about Spider-Man or whatever he comes up with next. No wonder Superman is in a wheelchair or whatever he trolls up.

[Chula Vista]

Originally Posted by Exo

The second scenario is fictionalized but I truly feel like this is how a lot of people respond when they hear of news like this overseas.

Immediately made me think about the Pulse nightclub shooting. 49 shot and killed at a gay bar by a dude with an Arabic name. The dude hated blacks, hispanics, and gays. He killed out of homophobia and an insecurity about his own sexuality (many who knew him thought he was a closeted gay and hated himself for it). No signs at all pointed to Islam.

In the aftermath, the majority of the attention was not about those who were killed, not about the massive scope of the tragedy, but all about the fact that the killer had one of those funny sounding Muslim names. Pissed me off so bad at the time.

[OccultHawk]

Top CBS lawyer: No sympathy for Vegas victims, 'probably Republicans' | Fox News

I’m actually not even sympathetic bc [sic] country music fans often are Republican gun toters [sic].

Man, this country is in a bad place.

[Cuthbert]

Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Immediately made me think about the Pulse nightclub shooting. 49 shot and killed at a gay bar by a dude with an Arabic name. The dude hated blacks, hispanics, and gays. He killed out of homophobia and an insecurity about his own sexuality (many who knew him thought he was a closeted gay and hated himself for it). No signs at all pointed to Islam.

In the aftermath, the majority of the attention was not about those who were killed, not about the massive scope of the tragedy, but all about the fact that the killer had one of those funny sounding Muslim names. Pissed me off so bad at the time.

Yes Chules other than the fact he pledged allegiance to ISIS, mentioned Ramadan and called himself a 'soldier of God' on the phone to the emergency services there were absolutely no signs whatsoever it pointed to Islam.

[Chula Vista]

Originally Posted by Man like Monkey

Yes Chules other than the fact he pledged allegiance to ISIS, mentioned Ramadan and called himself a 'soldier of God' on the phone to the emergency services there were absolutely no signs whatsoever it pointed to Islam.

Much more of an afterthought than an actual motive.

A former coworker of Mateen's at G4S said Mateen "had talked about killing people", used slurs and "had a lot of hatred for people. Black people, women, he did not like Jews, he did not like Hispanics, nor did he like gay or lesbian people."

An unnamed police academy classmate said Mateen asked him out around 2006, that they had spent time at gay bars together after class, and that he believed Mateen was gay. He also described him as "socially awkward" and disliked by classmates. A man who self-identified as Mateen's lover-of-two-months, "Miguel", stated that he believed the massacre was out of revenge against Latino men when Mateen learned he may have been exposed to HIV from a Puerto Rican man with whom he had sex. Mateen's autopsy results, however, showed that he was HIV-negative.

At least four regular Pulse customers reported having seen Mateen visit the nightclub on no fewer than a dozen occasions. One of them said he would sometimes become drunkenly "loud and belligerent", and at other times would drink in a corner by himself. According to a witness who recognized him outside the club an hour before the shooting, Mateen had messaged him using Jack'd, a gay dating app, intermittently over the course of a year before the attack. Another witness said Mateen used Grindr, a gay hook-up app, and Adam4Adam website to communicate with gay men, and had posted pictures of himself on both sites. A third witness said Mateen would try to pick up men at the nightclub.

On the day of the shooting, Mateen's father, Mir Seddique Mateen, said that he had seen his son get angry after seeing a gay couple kiss in front of his family at the Bayside Marketplace in Miami months prior to the shooting, which he suggested might have been a motivating factor. Two days later, after his son's sexual orientation became a subject of speculation, Mateen's father said he did not believe his son was homosexual. Mateen's ex-wife, however, claimed that his father called him gay while in her presence. Speaking on her behalf, her current fiancé said that she, his family, and others believed he was gay, and that "the FBI asked her not to tell this to the American media". (Uhm, wonder why?????)

In the hours before the shooting, Mateen used several Facebook accounts to write posts vowing vengeance for American airstrikes in Iraq and Syria and to search for content related to terrorism. These posts, since deleted, were recovered and included in an open letter by Senate Homeland Security Chairman Ron Johnson to Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg seeking further information about Mateen's use of the site.

During the shooting, Mateen made a 9-1-1 call claiming it was an act of retaliation for the killing of, among others, ISIL militant Abu Waheeb in an airstrike the previous month.

So he was a severely angry, homophobic, racist, self loathing, closeted gay man in the weeks/months/years? leading up to the shootings - and then in his final hours decided to fly an Islam flag after searching the internet for content?

Sorry. The Pulse massacre was not about radical Islamic terrorism. At all. He was simply putting up a smokescreen to hide his homosexuality.