The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

[Maajo]

Originally Posted by [MERIT]

I say yes. The law says no. And froundland says whatever the law says.

You think you should be allowed to let someone die because of their political beliefs? So basically you could find out that someone's a democrat or gay or just see that they're black and say "I'm a doctor. I'm gonna save him! Don't worry!" And then let the guy die and just lie about it. Lmao, that's the dumbest **** I've ever heard.

[[MERIT]]

Say someone is paying you to build them a house. They ask you to build a rape dungeon with murals of little kids getting fucked and puppies and kittens getting tortured.

By your standards, you have no right to say no to them.

[rubber soul]

Originally Posted by [MERIT]

I say yes. The law says no. And froundland says whatever the law says.

That's so sad

[[MERIT]]

Originally Posted by Maajo

You think you should be allowed to let someone die because of their political beliefs? So basically you could find out that someone's a democrat or gay or just see that they're black and say "I'm a doctor. I'm gonna save him! Don't worry!" And then let the guy die and just lie about it. Lmao, that's the dumbest **** I've ever heard.

No, again, my argument is that you don't have the right to someone else's labor. I don't know how I can make that any more clear.

In this case, the doctor would have most likely signed a contract with his employer, stating that he he cannot refuse service, so this is a moot point.

If you sign a contract to do something and then break that contract, then you should be fired.

[[MERIT]]

Originally Posted by rubber soul

That's so sad

I'm not saying that he SHOULD refuse, I'm saying that he should have the RIGHT to refuse.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by [MERIT]

Say someone is paying you to build them a house. They ask you to build a rape dungeon with murals of little kids getting fucked and puppies and kittens getting tortured.

If that's not consistent with what you offer as an architect and builder, then you have every right to refuse them that service or say "I don't do murals sorry but how many buttons do you want." If make a name for yourself as a sex dungeon heavy architect, then you have a lot less room to refuse service. Do you seriously think that's the same as refusing service on something like race alone? That is sad, adorable, and hilarious all at once.

You're not just committing a slippery slope fallacy here, you're jumping off of a slippery cliff dude.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by [MERIT]

No, again, my argument is that you don't have the right to someone else's labor.

When you offer your labour as a commodity, you give people that right.

[Maajo]

Originally Posted by [MERIT]

Say someone is paying you to build them a house. They ask you to build a rape dungeon with murals of little kids getting fucked and puppies and kittens getting tortured.

By your standards, you have no right to say no to them.

Yeah, and it's also like refusing to let someone kill you because they're a republican! Don't be a ****ing fascist!

[Maajo]

Originally Posted by [MERIT]

No, again, my argument is that you don't have the right to someone else's labor. I don't know how I can make that any more clear.

In this case, the doctor would have most likely signed a contract with his employer, stating that he he cannot refuse service, so this is a moot point.

If you sign a contract to do something and then break that contract, then you should be fired.

Lmao, yeah the almighty contract, can't break that.

[OccultHawk]

IF you believe the “owner” of a business is in fact the rightful owner Merit’s argument holds up. Say it’s my place. A jazz bar perhaps, I think how the bar operates should be up to me. Maybe I only want to serve one legged gay senior citizens. Maybe I don’t want to serve someone because **** him I don’t need a reason. I’m sympathetic to that reasoning.

I do not think the profit motive will solve discrimination problems but to me freedom means the right to discriminate.

In the antebellum and Jim Crow south the laws didn’t only allow discrimination they made desegregation illegal so that example is NOT a Libertarian economy.

It’s not perfect but there’s an appealing logic to what Merit is saying. Basically, if it’s your business you should be able to do what ever the **** you want with it.