The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

[Key]

Originally Posted by Anteater

The cake situation and this one are completely different. We had a thread on this if I recall: they weren't refused service for being gay.

Correct. So let's not compare the two anymore. I only did so because it's the same concept of being within their rights. Otherwise I agree. They are not comparable.

EDIT: I don't agree rhat it wasn't because they were gay. I was saying correct to the first part of your post.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Kiiii

Then it's an angry opinion I guess though I don't agree with that sentiment.

That it'll hurt the left? You don't think that having their political identity threatened like that will galvanize the right? Does this make the left look good?

[Chula Vista]

Originally Posted by Anteater

The cake situation and this one are completely different. We had a thread on this if I recall: they weren't refused service for being gay.

Yes they were.

[rubber soul]

Originally Posted by Frownland

Fair enough. Personally I find slinging shit in a culture war to be a very bad idea.

I'm going to faint. We actually agree on something

Originally Posted by Kiiii

I'm just more pro on if someone acts like a ****ty person, they deserve it when it gets thrown back. Not saying iit's right. But she had it coming.

Of course she had it coming. But there are better ways to show displeasure. They could have protested her outside for example.

Originally Posted by The Batlord

I really don't think it's comparable to that at all. Refusing service to entire groups of people, especially when it is a oppressed minority, contributes to that oppression. Refusing service to some person you think is a twat oppresses nobody. If you ran a business would you want to be forced by law to serve Ted Bundy?

Not really, but look at it this way. If I can refuse Ted Bundy service for being, well, Ted Bundy, somebody could refuse Bernie Sanders service for being a socialist. It works both ways.

[Key]

Originally Posted by Frownland

That it'll hurt the left? You don't think that having their political identity threatened like that will galvanize the right? Does this make the left look good?

Politics doesn't even have to be involved here. She's a ****ty person in general. If she wasn't in politics I'd think the same thing. Maybe it will hurt the left. I'll give you that one.

[Chula Vista]

Originally Posted by Frownland

That it'll hurt the left? You don't think that having their political identity threatened like that will galvanize the right? Does this make the left look good?

Womp Womp.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Kiiii

Politics doesn't even have to be involved here.

But they are.

Originally Posted by Kiiii

If she wasn't in politics I'd think the same thing.

Based on what? I didn't know about her until she took the position.

[rubber soul]

Originally Posted by Frownland

That it'll hurt the left? You don't think that having their political identity threatened like that will galvanize the right? Does this make the left look good?

That's exactly it. Why should the left stoop down to the far right's level?

[Key]

Originally Posted by Frownland

But they are.



Based on what? I didn't know about her until she took the position.

I was just saying it to prove a point. If it knew how ****ty she is in person without politics, I'd still justify the restaurants decision. But yes, politics is involved. But that's not my point.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by rubber soul

Not really, but look at it this way. If I can refuse Ted Bundy service for being, well, Ted Bundy, somebody could refuse Bernie Sanders service for being a socialist. It works both ways.

I imagine discriminating on the basis of political affiliation would be covered under the law, but if not then I'd say it should be. Again, I've not seen any evidence that the restaurant refuses service to conservatives, just this conservative. If someone wanted to refuse Bernie Sanders service on the basis of beating his wife or kicking puppies then I wouldn't care.