The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

School is where our minds are trained to believe that it’s an acceptable state of affairs to give up the bulk of your time and energy as a human being to be a cog in the economic capitalist machine. And yes we all suffered the effects. Every move we make in compliance to the oppressive panoptical system we live under was drilled into us at school.

Totes. When the system in power tells you how to act and think it's going to be in relation to keeping that system in power.

[Frownland]

Anyone remember when this happened?

US History course framework called ‘leftist, anti-American’

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by Doug McClasky

I say this as someone who thinks that parents are likewise a form of societal indoctrination but also doesn't think that there's a workable alternative so take that as you will.

I think I should expound upon this before someone takes this as me saying that indoctrination is okay somehow. The first lesson you receive from your parents is that they love you. The second is to obey. 99.999% of parents do not make it clear that the second lesson should not mean that all forms of authority should be obeyed, they simply want you to obey them because Jesus Christ the kid is trying to stick their tongue in an electrical socket. Parentage is the first line of defense for societies to train children to obey authority and that obedience is harmful in many ways.

[jwb]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

School is where our minds are trained to believe that it’s an acceptable state of affairs to give up the bulk of your time and energy as a human being to be a cog in the economic capitalist machine. And yes we all suffered the effects. Every move we make in compliance to the oppressive panoptical system we live under was drilled into us at school.

that's just a proxy for giving up x amount of time hunting and gathering while having far fewer opportunities.

If you believe in your anarchist model so much, why don't you go join one. Communes exist all over the place. And there are even Hunter gatherer tribes still wandering about, mostly cause we treat them like an endangered species at this point.

So clearly there is something about this society you prefer. And correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think you can point to a society that enjoys the same level of technological advancement while not bothering to educate their young to the best of their abilities.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by jwb

So clearly there is something about this society you prefer.

Spotify. It's definitely Spotify that's keeping him here.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by Frownland

Anyone remember when this happened?

US History course framework called ‘leftist, anti-American’

Kids are still taught that Jacksonian Democracy was a thing.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by jwb

that's just a proxy for giving up x amount of time hunting and gathering while having far fewer opportunities.

Sure but that doesn't mean that a fundamental change in how we live, how we think, and how we interact hasn't occurred that makes comparisons to older times at best problematic and at most completely useless. Hunting mammoths literally isn't the same as working a desk job or laying asphalt.

If you believe in your anarchist model so much, why don't you go join one. Communes exist all over the place. And there are even Hunter gatherer tribes still wandering about, mostly cause we treat them like an endangered species at this point.

Modern society has fundamentally changed the idea of a hunter gatherer model...

So clearly there is something about this society you prefer. And correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think you can point to a society that enjoys the same level of technological advancement while not bothering to educate their young to the best of their abilities.

I prefer this society because I have been trained for nothing else than living in it. If you chucked me into a Viking war band I wouldn't be opposed simply because of modern Liberal values conflicting with Viking values, I'd be opposed cause HOLY ****ING **** I WAS NOT TRAINED TO LIVE THIS LIFE GET ME OFF THIS BOAT!!!

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Doug McClasky

Viking war band

These subgenres are getting out of hand.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by jwb

that's just a proxy for giving up x amount of time hunting and gathering while having far fewer opportunities.

If you believe in your anarchist model so much, why don't you go join one. Communes exist all over the place. And there are even Hunter gatherer tribes still wandering about, mostly cause we treat them like an endangered species at this point.

So clearly there is something about this society you prefer. And correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think you can point to a society that enjoys the same level of technological advancement while not bothering to educate their young to the best of their abilities.

America makes all other alternatives impossible. Capitalism is a global menace that leaves no space uninvaded - physical and psychological.

Do you always argue for the most banal and widely accepted perspective?

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

all other alternatives

Which ones have you considered?