Oh yay, another political thread! (Prop 8, gay marriage stuff)

[anticipation]

Originally Posted by The Unfan

Close. There is no absolute moral compass, but what should be legally permissable in my opinion is that which doesn't cause harm, and that which is consented to. Stealing my wallet causes fiscal harm to me, therefore should not be permissable.

yes, but what if i steal your wallet which prevents you from buying a condom which, because of your common sense, prevents you from ****ing a bitch who has AIDS, thus preventing you from contracting AIDS.


pataphysics ftw, and you're welcome.

[kaleidoscope..]

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

So what your saying is you don't have any notion of right or wrong at all , you just need to be told them and then you'll blindly follow.

Did I say that at all? No.

Anyway... Janzsoon seems to be the only one here who can put up a decent argument against what I'm saying..id like to keep talking to janzsoon but oh well..

[Urban Hat€monger ?]

You compare two people getting married to theft and i'm the one not putting up a good argument?

[Tobias]

Originally Posted by kaleidoscope..

Did I say that at all? No.

Anyway... Janzsoon seems to be the only one here who can put up a decent argument against what I'm saying..id like to keep talking to janzsoon but oh well..

You are the only one that's NOT making a decent argument. Stealing is obviously wrong, even your moral compass should tell you that.

And honestly, how is two guys getting married any harm to you? I'm not talking about society or the sanctity of marriage, I'm talking about you personally. I want to hear your argument for that.

[Janszoon]

Originally Posted by kaleidoscope..

Anyway... Janzsoon seems to be the only one here who can put up a decent argument against what I'm saying..id like to keep talking to janzsoon but oh well..

Well, I'm still here if you want to keep talking to me. You didn't reply to the last post I directed your way (second post from the top on page 15).

[kaleidoscope..]

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

You compare two people getting married to theft and i'm the one not putting up a good argument?

I never compared those two things... i think that there were two kind of topics there..with the *** marrige thing and as i said in my first post in this thread i dont have a huge problem with it... then i went on to talk about truth and relativity etc.

Of course stealing is wrong i never said it wasnt. I was using it as an example...

When was a something being right or wrong a matter of weather it harms someone or not?

Janzsoon i will reply...Just a bit busy at work

[khfreek]

Originally Posted by kaleidoscope..

When was a something being right or wrong a matter of weather it harms someone or not?

It's always been that way... for instance:

If there was only one organism (let's say a human) that ever lived, and he was all alone, that human could do no good or bad in his life. Because doing positive or negative things requires interaction.

[WaspStar]

Originally Posted by kaleidoscope..

When was a something being right or wrong a matter of weather it harms someone or not?

The amount of harm an act causes other people might not matter as far as your own personal morality goes, but as far as the law goes, I see no reason to enact and enforce laws based on some arbitrary "moral" code, particularly when that moral code is rife with discrimination against people based on their sexual preferences.

[The Unfan]

Originally Posted by kaleidoscope..

Did I say that at all? No.

Anyway... Janzsoon seems to be the only one here who can put up a decent argument against what I'm saying..id like to keep talking to janzsoon but oh well..

Hey Wendycal, why don't you fuck off and die?

[simplephysics]

Here's a bit of good news I just came across.

(CNN) -- A Florida circuit judge declared unconstitutional Tuesday a 31-year-old state law that prevents ***s and lesbians from adopting children, saying "the blanket exclusion" of *** applicants "defeated Florida's goal of providing dependent children a permanent family."