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Old 06-23-2009, 10:55 PM   #841 (permalink)
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Old 06-23-2009, 11:09 PM   #842 (permalink)
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Old 06-24-2009, 03:33 AM   #844 (permalink)
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1. The Bible refers to it as a fruit, not an apple.

2. Go to Genesis 5:3, Adam fathered many men and women. Cain's wife was a sister of his, note that this was not illegal as it was in the Mosaic law, man was closer to perfection back then so the ill effects of incestuous childbearing did not affect them.

The story is not a metaphor, if that were true then a whole ton of crap in the Bible would be irrelevant (Jesus could not be the Greater Adam) and the promise of restoration of man's perfection would be false.]

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The story is not a metaphor, if that were true then a whole ton of crap in the Bible would be irrelevant (Jesus could not be the Greater Adam) and the promise of restoration of man's perfection would be false.]

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If the Genesis is not a metaphor, why is there so much evidence out there that contradict it such as fossils, dating of earth rocks and meteorites and so on?
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Old 06-24-2009, 06:27 AM   #846 (permalink)
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1. The Bible refers to it as a fruit, not an apple.

2. Go to Genesis 5:3, Adam fathered many men and women. Cain's wife was a sister of his, note that this was not illegal as it was in the Mosaic law, man was closer to perfection back then so the ill effects of incestuous childbearing did not affect them.

The story is not a metaphor, if that were true then a whole ton of crap in the Bible would be irrelevant (Jesus could not be the Greater Adam) and the promise of restoration of man's perfection would be false.]

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It is a metaphor, I'm Catholic I think I'd have some idea. I believe God used evolution as a way for the earth develop - there is such a thing as science being created by God as a tool for humans to gradually gain an understanding of the environment they live in order to continue to advance as a human race.
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Old 06-24-2009, 08:50 AM   #847 (permalink)
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It is a metaphor, I'm Catholic I think I'd have some idea. I believe God used evolution as a way for the earth develop - there is such a thing as science being created by God as a tool for humans to gradually gain an understanding of the environment they live in order to continue to advance as a human race.
I've always liked this idea as far as combining both science and religion. I don't see why it always has to be so black and white and you have to pick one side.
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Science is God.

"God" didn't create the sun and moon on the first day, so he had an eternity to create the historic world before creating the sun and, therefore, time and, therefore, observable 24-hour days and nights and, therefore, the next four days' creations.

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You know, rather than us worshipping a god of some kind, wouldn't it be cool if gods worshipped humans?
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You know, rather than us worshipping a god of some kind, wouldn't it be cool if gods worshipped humans?
Yeah, if they would envy our earthbound mortality, respect our humble biological powers, and find entertainment in our banter.
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