Originally Posted by The Batlord

Except that it's easy for somebody even vaguely knowledgeable about a political ideology to ask manipulative, simplistic, if/then moral questions meant to lead somebody less politically informed to whatever decision they want:

"Do you think people who can't afford food should starve?"

"Do you think it's right for the government to take money that you've worked for and give it to someone who hasn't?"


So no, I don't think "some sort of moral code" is good enough. Education, experience, and a sense of your own intellectual limits are just as necessary. Not that this has anything to do with existential deism.

Originally Posted by Isbjørn

Aight, true. My point was that you don't need to know what happens after death in order to know what your political affiliation is.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by Janszoon

I just meant in the real world. Obviously in fantasy scenarios anything can happen.

Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

how can you say that with such confidence? maybe you know something the rest of us don't?

Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

i'm saying... you know the nature of reality, janzoon?

Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

i'm saying... you know the nature of reality, janzoon?

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

i'll take that as a no