crash_override

I can have this on History channel and Rush Limabugh by the end of the week.

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Freebase Dali

Make a fake news story and send it to Darkest Hour so he can freak out and make a thread about it.

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Darkest Hour

i only believe in the 9/11 and north american union theories.

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Freebase Dali

I won't knock you for being curious, Darkest Hour, but the reason people get on your case about this stuff is because you bring out a conspiracy or video without really thinking it through and having a personal stance on it.
So we think it through for ya, and sometimes it might not be the nicest explanation.

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Neapolitan

Hey, at least I'm not stepping on anyone's toes, you know. By pleading the 5th, I'm more like a referee or a talk show host. I'm not try to expunge my point of veiw on anyone. Those things you mention go beyond the scope of the Lunar Landing topic, but since this topic peaked you curiousity about my historical perspective all I have to say is no I am not a history revisionist. I believe anything that is printed.

You raised a tough question to answers, but in a nut shell yes they happened, they are factual, because they occur in the history books. Interestingly enough, if you look at each of your examples, all there conclusion draws the world closer to Globalization. If you were to ask "Why they happened?" like Why the Civil War happened? or like "Why Hitler invaded Poland?" or "Why the Stock Market crash?", then you just opened yourself a can of worms. Because they are so many points of veiws of the past and each with an invested ideaology, if someone mentions how he interprets the past his in for a long drawn out brouhaha over things in the past he had no control over in the first place. So you understand why I don't want to give any "Why's" things happened.

Why the Stock Market crash? Coffee

Freebase Dali

^ There's a difference between denying that something happened versus denying WHY it supposedly happened.
I really don't think I need to explain it further than that.
This whole topic of discussion is based on "did", not "why".


The thing is, just pleading the 5th about something is basically saying you have no opinion toward it. If that's the case, I don't see the point of even commenting in a debate about the matter.

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Neapolitan

All of that was adressed to Bungolow who insist I flat out denied the Lunar Landing. I don't ever recall ever flat out denying landed on the moon, at least in this thread. All I did was raise the question about the Lunar Landing. Please understand that Bungie asked if I question other of historical facts found in text books - and I don't. To his question, I wanted him to understand that history is more than "yes" and "no" to an event, but what does that event means to people, what it means metaphysically. (reread what I wrote, and you'll see I didn't equate "did" and "why")

IF this thread ends up exploring "Why we went to the Moon." and it's done by other posters then I see nothing wrong with it. Someone was trying to spam it with lost socks. I never thought of at the time when I started this thread of adding "why" we went to the moon, maybe because I was in shock of discovering we did go to the moon. But I think in hindsight it would of made a more dynamic thread, you know, to explore why we went to the moon. But hey, no thread ends up the way it started anyway.

Well when I say I'm pleading the 5th, it means I don't want to incriminate myself by revealing my opinion, I'm not insisting my opinion on anyone, and I'm not trying to favor one side or the other. I'm just an unbias observer perusing whatever anyone writes.

bungalow

What are you rambling about? Did I ask you to give any "whys"? I just asked if you're willing to employ the same skepticism to these events that you do to the moon landing. What about the moon landing, specifically, makes you unwilling to say whether it happened or not? It is a historical event just like the ones I mentioned that you say "in a nutshell, happened" (what does that mean anyway? what about outside a nutshell, is the answer still as simple?). And again, because I am dumbfounded by this response...I never asked for "whys" Non-sequitur Man. And I never asked about globalization. Are you tripping?

bungalow

Dude, what are you talking about? If English isn't your first language just let me know, I'll go easier on you. I didn't insist that you flat out denied the moon landing. I said that your unwillingness to say one way or the other whether it happened was just as stupid as flat out denying it. See the distinction? You're the one who wants to talk about "whys" and "metaphysical" implications (I swear you're tripping) when no one else cares. I just want to know why you're willing to firmly say that Hitler invaded Poland but not willing to take a stance on the moon-landing. They each happened, it's as simple as that.

Would you be more comfortable if this discussion was about why we went to the moon? You really want to talk about that for some reason. Even though you're unwilling to say if we even went there in the first place. And you didn't know we went to the moon until recently? How old are you? I can forgive you if you're really young I suppose...

Again I ask why you're pleading the 5th on this issue and not the other historical events.

Neapolitan

Furst of all, those things you talked about, I don't have a thread on them, if I did I would try to be balanced and fair, like the Spansih Civil War, I wouldn't want to take a side, just in case you were a communist.

I can't see my "unwillingness" to say one way or the other weather it happened was just as "stupidly" as flat out denying it. I see it as being open minded to whoever wants to voice his opinion in the thread. Capisce!?


Whoa, let's back up here for a minute, Hitler didn't invade Poland. I don't know what you are trying to pull here. I looked it up on wikipedea and I found out it was the German Nazi army.