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Old 08-28-2009, 11:10 AM   #61 (permalink)
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One sentence of Descartes should have cleared this one up for you.

...je pense donc je suis.
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Old 08-28-2009, 11:50 AM   #62 (permalink)
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It's a quote, troll. Va t'en.
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Old 08-28-2009, 12:36 PM   #63 (permalink)
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It's a quote, .... Va t'en.
I ignore it every time you say that so let move on, you know I'm not and you are ruining possibly what could be an awesome friendship.

I said 'Translate the quotation into English. The rules of forum specify you announce the translation in English ' It was a silly little joke. Life is short laugh a little.


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“If one listens to the wrong kind of music, he will become the wrong kind of person.” Aristotle.
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Old 08-28-2009, 12:50 PM   #64 (permalink)
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I ignore it every time you say that so let move on, you know I'm not and you are ruining possibly what could be an awesome friendship.

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Old 08-28-2009, 01:14 PM   #65 (permalink)
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Ahh...the presence of brains so obviously more experienced and learned than mine is refreshing.

Freebase Dali, it consistenly sounds like you're trying to convince me that solipsism is completely bogus and that even idiots could see that we exist. Well, for one thing, I dont need convincing, i do not believe in solipsism! However, I am not going to write off the theory as completely bogus because A) the theory wouldn't exist in any form of relevancy if it was in fact as simple as "i do (or don't) exist, end of story" and B) I don't consider myself experienced enough (or really, humans in general experienced enough) to reach a conclusion absolutly, and C) If someone somewhere believes in it, then it is my self given duty to try and understand that from an empathetic point of view, if only for a few minutes.

Everything we learn is built upon what we already know. If we don't know anything for 100% sure (which, in my opinion, we don't) then we can't define "laws" or anything. There's a reason everything is called a theory in science, we can't know for sure! We can gather "scientific evidence" that makes these theories make enough sense to be assumed true, but there is (almost) always some exception to the rule. If these exceptions are taken into account, our "knowledge" can maybe become more and more accurate, but our little human existence hasn't been scientifically inclined for nearly long enough.

I'm not trying to convince anyone that the world is square or that it doesn't exist at all, for all practical purposes, evidence indicates a spherical world that we all live and breathe on and yes, it does exist. I am willing to work inside Newton's laws and all the other theories that have been accepted into the scientific community. But, if we take a second to think outside of the box, to disregard the common and accepted, everyonce in a while we'll come across something revolutionary, or at least interesting, to build off of and test and theorize about. In my mind, its all about remaining humble enough to learn from what we don't know about yet.
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Old 08-29-2009, 12:23 AM   #66 (permalink)
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So i am taking it that just about everyone in this thread thinks reality has a true appearance. And we are experiencing this true appearance?

I don't think so.
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Old 08-29-2009, 01:46 AM   #67 (permalink)
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So i am taking it that just about everyone in this thread thinks reality has a true appearance. And we are experiencing this true appearance?

I don't think so.
True. We are not experiencing the real appearance and we will never be able to because we will always see the world through our eyes which means everything is simply an image filtered to us from our brain.

However, this doesn't mean that we can't know if we exist or not.
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Old 08-29-2009, 02:06 AM   #68 (permalink)
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Consciousness is existence
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Old 08-29-2009, 06:32 AM   #69 (permalink)
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It's easy to "exist", having a meaningful life is different.
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Old 08-29-2009, 06:41 AM   #70 (permalink)
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Since humans invented the concept of reality, and there's no logical way to prove it either way, I can't see why this is a relevant question, let alone important.
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