Ninetales

What exactly are people mad at 216 for? This seems like the jist of what he's saying:

and that seems pretty logical and correct to me.

Scarlett O'Hara

Mental illness runs in my family as well as anxiety. People don't understand what is wrong with you as they can't visually see anything so assume you need to "harden the **** up". New Zealand has a long way to go before people will realise how serious mental health can be, especially in men.

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GuD

@Nine,

I was just trying to point out that 216 doesn't do a good job at explaining himself. And when he tried to do a better job he just contradicted himself.

First he says there's varying degrees of mental illness; then he does something he seems to do a lot and trivialized some mental illnesses because there are people with or without them that are less than honest; and then he said someone he would consider mentally ill wouldn't be capable of posting on a forum, despite the fact that what he *considers* a mental illness isn't really relevant because what is and isn't a mental illness isn't up to him to decide. Allegedly, his field of work provides him with credibility but I doubt he's a trained and licensed psychologist/psychiatrist. I'd have an easier time believing he means he volunteers as a backseat driver on the short bus than that.

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butthead aka 216

none of it is contradictory, i said mental illness is a super broad term and my initial mental picture of someone with a mental illness is someone not functional enough to use a message board. all just relatin to my comments about there bein differnet levels and degrees of mental health... which is jsut relatin to me sayin i dont take ppl real serious on the internet who claim they have mental illness, MOST OF THE TIME. why?? cause i see ppl way worse than them on a daily basis and i understand everyones extreme desire to be a victim/oppressed. doesnt apply to all cases and guess what?? most of the time ppl that are diagnosed fulfill a slef fulfilling prophecy... hmm whys that?? cause they use their diagnoses as an excuse



i only brought up my job(s) to help show that i know what im pretty informed about mental health, likely more than 99% of this forum. not that other thoughts arent completely invalid. but yes, workin ina field tends to make you more knowledgable about that field. also you are a cook and i dont have trouble believin that lol

GuD

See, that actually made sense. Now I get where you're coming from.

Edit: You still said that someone who is actually mentally ill is 10x worse than anyone who could post on a message board. Pretty much those words exactly, which is one of the reasons people were arguing with you (or at least just me). Still disagree with some things you said here and there but the debate isn't going anywhere so I'll leave it.

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Cuthbert

Cheers BD.

Any good? Any bad experiences/side effects at all?

Cuthbert

Had another episode on Wednesday & it just came out of nowhere. 7pm I started feeling little pangs of pain in my chest on the left hand side, had a headache and started to feel a bit dizzy/numb, got up and it just went downhill from there. My head felt blurry and I tried to calm down, put my head down etc but when I closed my eyes it felt like I was gonna pass out. I phoned the NHS 24 hour number cos it was outside GP hours and they said it was anxiety and I took some Propranolol and Paracetemol.

Felt exhausted next day & still do, and the chest pain has came back in little spots, last night it was on the right side of my chest. I am going to the GP on Monday as that is the nearest appointment they had. Still feel like dirt tbh.

Scarlett O'Hara

Aww that's no good. I hope you feel better bb.

Anxiety is deeply rooted within my family and I have had times in the last 2 weeks where I was so anxious that I felt my body was exploding, my heart racing, feeling tight in my throat, my stomach in knots, my breathing intense and my head extremely sore and blurry. Once you get into it, it's very hard to recover. I'm still not 100% back to normal but am controlling it by not allowing myself to think about what I have ahead of me.

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Sequoioideae

My depression is starting to act up again, I don't know why, but I've been thinking about just offing myself a lot more than I usually do. I'm just working and sleeping, I haven't had sex in 2 years, and I haven't been on a date in about 2 years. I'm going crazy seeing all my friends have fun with their lives, and I'm here alone, in bed. I wish I wasn't alive so I could spare myself, and others all of my bullshit. I've flat out tried to make people hate me when I'm hysterical, but they just look at me crazy. Just let me die, please, I'll be happier dead than living the next 20 years of my life alone and possibly working in a grocery store. Why don't people try to encourage others to commit suicide, especially when they've been unhappy most of their lives? They just let them exist in a pit of total unhappiness, but the moment they try and do anything to end it they just tell them to seek help and that it's wrong. They don't care about me, they only care because someone they know will be dead, and death is "scary". If someone wants to die so badly, why not let them end it to spare them of any more suffering?

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djchameleon

Stories like that happen. For most people that want to die so badly, they think there is only way solution to their troubles and to end the way they are feeling. The last resort/solution which is permanent for feeling like crap temporarily. Most people jyou don't want to see others give up on life and feel like the person that is depressed will eventually get to the point in life where they don't feel the same way.

There isn't much that I could say to help you change the way you are feeling. It has to come from inside you the willingness to change your current situation and move forward to obtain all the goals that you want that will make you happy.

Kevin Berthia, California Man, Reunites With Officer 8 Years After Golden Gate Bridge Suicide Attempt

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