Got Feminism? - Music Banter Music Banter

Go Back   Music Banter > Community Center > The Lounge > Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion
Register Blogging Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Welcome to Music Banter Forum! Make sure to register - it's free and very quick! You have to register before you can post and participate in our discussions with over 70,000 other registered members. After you create your free account, you will be able to customize many options, you will have the full access to over 1,100,000 posts.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-13-2015, 07:45 PM   #601 (permalink)
moon lake inc.
 
Machine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Detroit
Posts: 2,125
Default

Yeah I kind of have to agree with JWB on this one.
Machine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2015, 07:54 PM   #602 (permalink)
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,235
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon View Post
This had me nodding in agreement throughout. While I may disagree on some specifics I generally subscribe to your point of view.
i am curious which specifics you disagree with though. if you just don't wanna argue then you can tell me and i won't argue back. or if you do wanna argue then you know i'm down lol. either way it's your choice.
John Wilkes Booth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2015, 09:14 PM   #603 (permalink)
county fair energy
 
WWWP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 4,775
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth View Post
i am curious which specifics you disagree with though. if you just don't wanna argue then you can tell me and i won't argue back. or if you do wanna argue then you know i'm down lol. either way it's your choice.
I guess after rereading any initial disagreements I felt are mainly just schisms between the presentation of modern feminism and my understanding of feminism in relation to myself. I forget sometimes that my perception of what feminism means/is isn't equal to what's mainstream these days.
WWWP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2015, 09:25 PM   #604 (permalink)
Brain Licker
 
Xurtio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,083
Default

There's definitely a tumerous side of modern feminism.
__________________
H̓̇̅̉yͤ͏mͬ͂ͧn͑̽̽̌ͪ̑͐͟o̴͊̈́͑̇m͛͌̓ͦ̑aͫ̽ͤ̇n̅̎͐̒ͫ͐c̆ͯͫ̋ ̔̃́eͯ͒rͬͬ̄҉
Xurtio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2015, 10:19 PM   #605 (permalink)
Zum Henker Defätist!!
 
The Batlord's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Beating GNR at DDR and keying Axl's new car
Posts: 48,216
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xurtio View Post
There's definitely a tumerous side of modern feminism.
Well, all people are douchebags, so all ideologies are therefore douchey as well, regardless of their theoretical merit.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien
There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
The Batlord is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2015, 05:13 AM   #606 (permalink)
Ask me how!
 
Oriphiel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: The States
Posts: 5,355
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Batlord View Post
Well, all people are douchebags, so all ideologies are therefore douchey as well, regardless of their theoretical merit.
There are plenty of ideologies that acknowledge our douchey nature, and seek to overcome it with reasonable self-cultivation and understanding. But the awful thing is, pretty much every ideology that starts this way inevitably gets hijacked by uncompromising extremists...

Life is such a funny thing. I don't know how it can be so beautiful whilst sucking so badly.
Oriphiel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2015, 05:17 AM   #607 (permalink)
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,235
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon View Post
I guess after rereading any initial disagreements I felt are mainly just schisms between the presentation of modern feminism and my understanding of feminism in relation to myself. I forget sometimes that my perception of what feminism means/is isn't equal to what's mainstream these days.
i think i might know what you mean by this post but i might be wrong. i am unsure tbh. my interpretation is that you're basically saying that your idea of what feminism is and my idea of what feminism is aren't the same, so some of my criticisms don't apply to your definition of feminism. my picture of feminism largely comes from pop culture, youtube videos, a few internet discussions like this one and interactions with self-proclaimed feminists where as you have probably put more time into researching feminism if you consider yourself one.
John Wilkes Booth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2015, 05:42 AM   #608 (permalink)
Brain Licker
 
Xurtio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,083
Default

I think modern brands of feminism like Jezebel-type click bait are largely an internet phenomena. Mysogonists and mysandrists argue with each other over the internet and pool up with like minded people until there's enough of them to manifest some non-internet event, but how representative are they of feminism. Many of them actually criticize mainstream feminism as being too "soft", automatically marginalizimg thenselves.
__________________
H̓̇̅̉yͤ͏mͬ͂ͧn͑̽̽̌ͪ̑͐͟o̴͊̈́͑̇m͛͌̓ͦ̑aͫ̽ͤ̇n̅̎͐̒ͫ͐c̆ͯͫ̋ ̔̃́eͯ͒rͬͬ̄҉
Xurtio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2015, 08:49 AM   #609 (permalink)
county fair energy
 
WWWP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 4,775
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth View Post
i think i might know what you mean by this post but i might be wrong. i am unsure tbh. my interpretation is that you're basically saying that your idea of what feminism is and my idea of what feminism is aren't the same, so some of my criticisms don't apply to your definition of feminism. my picture of feminism largely comes from pop culture, youtube videos, a few internet discussions like this one and interactions with self-proclaimed feminists where as you have probably put more time into researching feminism if you consider yourself one.
Well, yes and no. Our views on feminist issues - at least the ones mentioned here - are the same or similar, but the discrepancy is in our views on feminism as a whole due to different experiences.

Last edited by WWWP; 01-14-2015 at 09:00 AM.
WWWP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2015, 08:59 AM   #610 (permalink)
county fair energy
 
WWWP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 4,775
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xurtio View Post
I think modern brands of feminism like Jezebel-type click bait are largely an internet phenomena. Mysogonists and mysandrists argue with each other over the internet and pool up with like minded people until there's enough of them to manifest some non-internet event, but how representative are they of feminism. Many of them actually criticize mainstream feminism as being too "soft", automatically marginalizimg thenselves.
I think this is true as well. The squeaky wheel gets the oil. Although I think us classic feminists are the majority, it's the louder subgroups that cause hesitancy in labeling oneself with the F word.
WWWP is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Similar Threads



© 2003-2024 Advameg, Inc.