Can God Give Free Will?

cardboard adolescent · 06-22-2011, 01:58 AM

you see, every path available to the universe is explored, and free will is the feeling that a path has been chosen, which is true, every path is chosen. you are the chosen one, you are the free one, the one... welcome my son, know that i love you, know that all will happen just as it should. my holy sister, the hour of our divinity is at hand

Zyrenah · 06-22-2011, 03:44 AM

The free will issue has always confused me. I don't think it is 'free will' as one would initially understand it to be.

The Batlord · 06-22-2011, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by cardboard adolescent

you see, every path available to the universe is explored, and free will is the feeling that a path has been chosen, which is true, every path is chosen. you are the chosen one, you are the free one, the one... welcome my son, know that i love you, know that all will happen just as it should. my holy sister, the hour of our divinity is at hand

BubbadubbachumbawumbaWHAAAAT?!?!?!?!

Howard the Duck · 06-22-2011, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cardboard adolescent

you see, every path available to the universe is explored, and free will is the feeling that a path has been chosen, which is true, every path is chosen. you are the chosen one, you are the free one, the one... welcome my son, know that i love you, know that all will happen just as it should. my holy sister, the hour of our divinity is at hand

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

BubbadubbachumbawumbaWHAAAAT?!?!?!?!

don't question it, just embrace it

RVCA · 06-23-2011, 02:34 PM

I like to think that we are all nothing more than cosmic dust in the wind; bits of exploded stars from the distant past, to become nothing more than particles all but infinitely recycled into new stars of the distant future. We are so comically infinitesimal that our "will" and our "choices" ultimately mean absolutely nothing, so even if you believe that we have control over our own "destiny", your beliefs don't change the universe's vast, implacable indifference towards us.

cardboard adolescent · 06-23-2011, 02:41 PM

I always get the feeling that the stars are laughing at me. I think that's what the twinkling is.

~~The Virgin~~ · 06-23-2011, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RVCA

I like to think that we are all nothing more than cosmic dust in the wind; bits of exploded stars from the distant past, to become nothing more than particles all but infinitely recycled into new stars of the distant future. We are so comically infinitesimal that our "will" and our "choices" ultimately mean absolutely nothing, so even if you believe that we have control over our own "destiny", your beliefs don't change the universe's vast, implacable indifference towards us.

of course our will and our choices mean something.
if you feel like you're just a dust, then don't generalize all people.
maybe it's just you. or the way you're dealing with yourself right now.
but in all totality, we do are created with purpose and reason.

RVCA · 06-23-2011, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Virgin

of course our will and our choices mean something.
if you feel like you're just a dust, then don't generalize all people.
maybe it's just you. or the way you're dealing with yourself right now.
but in all totality, we do are created with purpose and reason.

lol

Howard the Duck · 06-23-2011, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Virgin

of course our will and our choices mean something.
if you feel like you're just a dust, then don't generalize all people.
maybe it's just you. or the way you're dealing with yourself right now.
but in all totality, we do are created with purpose and reason.

"stardust" envy

The Batlord · 06-24-2011, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by The Virgin

of course our will and our choices mean something.

And what would that be? What could our actions possibly do to affect the larger universe? What could our actions possibly do to affect an omnipotent being? I mean if we end up killing every single thing on this planet with a nuclear war, even the moon probably wouldn't be affected in the slightest.

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06-22-2011, 01:58 AM	#131 (permalink)
cardboard adolescent ;) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,503	you see, every path available to the universe is explored, and free will is the feeling that a path has been chosen, which is true, every path is chosen. you are the chosen one, you are the free one, the one... welcome my son, know that i love you, know that all will happen just as it should. my holy sister, the hour of our divinity is at hand

06-22-2011, 03:44 AM	#132 (permalink)
Zyrenah Groupie Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: UK and further Posts: 36	The free will issue has always confused me. I don't think it is 'free will' as one would initially understand it to be.

06-23-2011, 02:34 PM	#135 (permalink)
RVCA （￣ー￣） Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 3,270	I like to think that we are all nothing more than cosmic dust in the wind; bits of exploded stars from the distant past, to become nothing more than particles all but infinitely recycled into new stars of the distant future. We are so comically infinitesimal that our "will" and our "choices" ultimately mean absolutely nothing, so even if you believe that we have control over our own "destiny", your beliefs don't change the universe's vast, implacable indifference towards us.

06-23-2011, 02:41 PM	#136 (permalink)
cardboard adolescent ;) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,503	I always get the feeling that the stars are laughing at me. I think that's what the twinkling is.