London riots

FRED HALE SR. · 08-08-2011, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

This sort of post pisses me off. Why does everything have to be made into some sort of comparative competition?

There are all sorts of different reasons for riots with some more justified than others.

My apologies Jack trying to lighten the mood a bit. Actually the LA riot was nothing but a reason to pillage, loot, and beat up innocent people. Seems like the London riots have a bit of reasoning behind them. Well at least they began that way. Hope everyone remains safe, good day.

jackhammer · 08-08-2011, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu

As far as I'm concerned the events taking place in London are pretty severe. It's scary as hell being here to be honest, we aren't allowed to leave and you can hear bangs, crashes, shouts and sirens constantly. There's a fire that's been raging in Clapham for about two hours now, I can see it's glow from my window and it looks huge.

As for the reasons acting as a catalyst for all of this, I don't know. It's mainly disconnected groups of youths just randomly targeting anywhere and everywhere, I agree that there has to be some sort of underlying resentment driving this behaviour but the manner in which they're going about their business is just mindless and totally reckless. I just can't get my brain around it all, I've seen stuff like this on TV before but never experienced it myself. It's shocking. I'm probably not typing anything of sense at the moment - I'm just... fuck.

Of course it is mindless and reckless. 95% of the rioters are just doing it for the sake of it but there is a problem somewhere. It may not be relevant to everyone social or politically but people just don't start a riot for the sake of it.

Flip the coin the other way in that we live in relative peace over here so why start a riot? Something, somewhere is pissing people off. We don't just become an unruly mass for the sake of it.

I don't know what it is but AGAIN this is not mere coincidence.

People are pissed off and public protests have been commonplace for over a year now when it was relatively quite up until then.

Unknown Soldier · 08-08-2011, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR.

Actually the LA riot was nothing but a reason to pillage, loot, and beat up innocent people. Seems like the London riots have a bit of reasoning behind them. Well at least they began that way. Hope everyone remains safe, good day.

There is no real reason behind the London riot at all, they`re just using the death of a person to go on a rampage, its summer as well and the nights are mild.........the whole thing will probably die out in a couple of days.

Then Brits will do what they do best and that is try to understand why this happened, they`ll reach a conclusion and then as per usual do nothing about it and just sweep it under the carpet until the next riots occur, these could be in either a years time or in the next decade.

EvilChuck · 08-08-2011, 06:43 PM

I think its too big now to sweep under the carpet.

FETCHER. · 08-08-2011, 07:14 PM

Did it not all kick off before this guy was shot? He was shot because he had a gun if I'm not mistaken.

EvilChuck · 08-08-2011, 07:18 PM

No, the guy was shot last thursday. The trouble started on saturday night during a protest about the situation that lead to his shooting that got violent, and its just escalated from there. The shooting isnt the cause of all of this, its just the spark that lit the fire.

FETCHER. · 08-08-2011, 07:21 PM

Oh well, the news I read insinuated it was because the guy was shot "for no reason". You just about can't trust any news anyway. I'm just a little glad I'm 400 miles away. I'd be bricking it. I hope everyone from London's alright!

Sneer · 08-08-2011, 07:25 PM

Die out in a couple of days?

This is what these grade A cunts are doing all over the city. This particular instance is a Croydon furniture shop founded in 1876, it's been a family run business for over 100 years and because of this mindless activity it's now been completely obliterated.

I'm watching the news now and an absolutely gigantic fire is rumbling in Essex at the moment, there are no videos on the internet of it yet but I can tell you it's vast, if anyone is watching BBC News you'll know what I mean. The violence seems to be increasing in severity, the acts of vandalism are becoming bigger and more devastating

It's become a major crisis, one that just cannot be swept under the carpet in a few days.

hip hop bunny hop · 08-09-2011, 12:02 AM

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We don't just become an unruly mass for the sake of it.

You greatly understimate the ability of the individual human to act like a jackass. You've compltely ignored the historical willingness of a group of people to do absolutely repugnant **** just because everyone else was doing it.

I'm not British, but whenver these arguments occur vis-a-vis something in the states, it annoys me. "It's not a riot, it's an expression of rage" wrong mother****er, these are jackasses who are looking for an excuse. Whenever you say, "I don't agree with riots, but...." - you're excusing their behavior.

Oh, boo ****ing hooo. University fees went up. So? Let's do a mental exercise; how many rioters are Uni students who both go to school & work full time? How many are "fulltime students" who lack regular full time employment and have a middle class family to fall back upon?

This isn't a revolution, and I'd be damned if any workingclass mofo is going to risk prison time & a rap sheet over something political.

~~Dirty~~ · 08-09-2011, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

You greatly understimate the ability of the individual human to act like a jackass. You've compltely ignored the historical willingness of a group of people to do absolutely repugnant **** just because everyone else was doing it.

I'm not British, but whenver these arguments occur vis-a-vis something in the states, it annoys me. "It's not a riot, it's an expression of rage" wrong mother****er, these are jackasses who are looking for an excuse. Whenever you say, "I don't agree with riots, but...." - you're excusing their behavior.

Oh, boo ****ing hooo. University fees went up. So? Let's do a mental exercise; how many rioters are Uni students who both go to school & work full time? How many are "fulltime students" who lack regular full time employment and have a middle class family to fall back upon?

This isn't a revolution, and I'd be damned if any workingclass mofo is going to risk prison time & a rap sheet over something political.

American History X fan by chance?

Riots in general are retarded. I haven't really followed this much aside from a google search I did because of this thread. But you see it happen all the time, all over the world for dumb reasons (like every sports championship ever). I think people justify their actions in the moment because everyone else seems to be doing it. Rioting just hurts your own community. Lighting shit on fire and destroying property really doesn't solve anything. I hope everyone caught on camera faces criminal charges.

08-08-2011, 06:43 PM	#24 (permalink)
EvilChuck #based Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: (Near) London, England Posts: 443	I think its too big now to sweep under the carpet. __________________ Last.FM

08-08-2011, 07:18 PM	#26 (permalink)
EvilChuck #based Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: (Near) London, England Posts: 443	No, the guy was shot last thursday. The trouble started on saturday night during a protest about the situation that lead to his shooting that got violent, and its just escalated from there. The shooting isnt the cause of all of this, its just the spark that lit the fire. __________________ Last.FM

08-08-2011, 07:25 PM	#28 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,430	Die out in a couple of days? This is what these grade A cunts are doing all over the city. This particular instance is a Croydon furniture shop founded in 1876, it's been a family run business for over 100 years and because of this mindless activity it's now been completely obliterated. I'm watching the news now and an absolutely gigantic fire is rumbling in Essex at the moment, there are no videos on the internet of it yet but I can tell you it's vast, if anyone is watching BBC News you'll know what I mean. The violence seems to be increasing in severity, the acts of vandalism are becoming bigger and more devastating It's become a major crisis, one that just cannot be swept under the carpet in a few days. __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show