The Philosophical Debate Thread

Mr. Charlie · 06-30-2014, 03:56 PM

But metaphysical 'crap', as you call it, is fun to contemplate. Or at least I enjoy thinking about it. Are good and evil of importance to the universe or just man, what is consciousness, does the Universe, for want of a better word, 'want' to be conscious. Useless questions to an extent, sure, but they can help us imagine what things might be.

But better than me, an inarticulate fool, try and defend it, here's good, old Bertrand Russell:

RL Clown · 05-02-2015, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Thom Yorke

Anything philosophy can go here.

Some important points:

1. Why do some people ALWAYS complain about politics? If there is a conservative government, they will complain about the party. But if there's a liberal party, they will complain about the government as well. Why don't these people put themselves in the shoes of the government? What? They think that it's easy to run a country?? Why don't these people try it themselves?? Maybe these people want anarchy... Maybe they don't want a government at all. But human beings cannot survive under anarchy because anarchy is pure capitalism. Only the strongest will live under a pure capitalist system.

2. If you compare 2015 to the 1700's, human beings have undergone a dramatic transformation... Human beings are becoming more and more specialized. Back in the days, people knew how to ride a horse, design a boat, make a painting, play the guitar, perform many long calculations, and cure themselves when they had a throat infection. But today, human beings are so specialized that they can only perform a few operations. For example, David might know a lot about Chemistry, but can he clean his garage? No. Can he drive a motorcycle? No. If he got lost in the woods, I wonder how he would survive... Are human beings becoming smarter or are human beings becoming less capable? Are human beings becoming more intelligent or are they becoming less responsible? I don't mean to sound so pessimistic; I'm just saying... I admit that I'm not very skilled either... There are many things that I can't do...

3. I fear that, one day, technology is going to rule the universe... One day, machines and robots are going to turn against human beings (they will start a revolution to overthrow the human beings.) They will become sick and tired of being controlled by people, so they will try to destroy the human race. You might laugh at me; you might think that I've been watching too many Sci Fi movies (like The Terminator). But chances are, I might actually be on to something... Look at the logic... If you take a small number such as 1 and you keep on multiplying it by 2, obviously, you will end up with a very big number. The same thing is happening to technology. Human beings keep on improving technology; now some cars actually drive themselves! One day technology will become so powerful that human beings will not be able to control them! We must slow down the development of technology. I cannot stress this enough... I do not mean to sound extremely negative. Of course, there ARE some GOOD points about technology. I think that some people use iPads to help them with mathematics. There's nothing wrong with that. But still, we need to slow down the growth of machines. If we don't, the human race is doomed.

**Frownland** · 05-02-2015, 02:54 PM

David needs help, he's clearly a savant.

Mondo Bungle · 05-02-2015, 02:58 PM

The world's a fairly big place, I bet there's someone out there who know how to play guitar and ride horses.

Chula Vista · 05-02-2015, 03:39 PM

Bertrand Russell is my God.

"I do not pretend to be able to prove that there is no God. I equally cannot prove that Satan is a fiction. The Christian god may exist; so may the gods of Olympus, or of ancient Egypt, or of Babylon. But no one of these hypotheses is more probable than any other: they lie outside the region of even probable knowledge, and therefore there is no reason to consider any of them.”

RoxyRollah · 05-02-2015, 05:16 PM

I think ppl complain about politics because they can. Doesnt matter really what the government does/doesn't do.Deep down nobody really likes to be governed. Its a nessecary evil.Bitching relives stress I guess.

Humans are getting lazier..David shouldn't preform any operations with out a licence. Thats illegal.

See Robot Thread.

Oriphiel · 05-02-2015, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

See Robot Thread.

See Robot Run.

Chula Vista · 05-02-2015, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

Deep down nobody really likes to be governed.

I'd so like to type a couple of hundred of words in response, but she's already pissed off at me, so I won't.

Love ya Cuckamongacrackakilla!

RoxyRollah · 05-02-2015, 07:04 PM

I was mad like week ago....You are back on my good side.Dont **** up.

DwnWthVwls · 05-02-2015, 07:06 PM

I think deep down it's the exact opposite. That's why all you lunatics have God telling you what's right and wrong instead of making up your own mind.

05-02-2015, 02:54 PM	#43 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	David needs help, he's clearly a savant. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

05-02-2015, 03:39 PM	#45 (permalink)
Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	Bertrand Russell is my God. "I do not pretend to be able to prove that there is no God. I equally cannot prove that Satan is a fiction. The Christian god may exist; so may the gods of Olympus, or of ancient Egypt, or of Babylon. But no one of these hypotheses is more probable than any other: they lie outside the region of even probable knowledge, and therefore there is no reason to consider any of them.” __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

06-30-2014, 03:56 PM	#41 (permalink)
Mr. Charlie Shoo Thoughts Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: These Mountains Posts: 2,308	But metaphysical 'crap', as you call it, is fun to contemplate. Or at least I enjoy thinking about it. Are good and evil of importance to the universe or just man, what is consciousness, does the Universe, for want of a better word, 'want' to be conscious. Useless questions to an extent, sure, but they can help us imagine what things might be. But better than me, an inarticulate fool, try and defend it, here's good, old Bertrand Russell: