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Old 04-21-2012, 06:50 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I'm not one to discourage discussion, but honestly the drug prohibition thing has been done to death. There are many more social issues that could be tackled.
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Old 04-21-2012, 07:48 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Also I wonder if eugenics will ever be considered an acceptable process.
REALLY? You do realize Eugenics is one of the angles HITLER used to justify the holocaust right?

Better question, how do you feel about Planned Parenthood? That kind of group is about as close to a moderate and sane application of eugenics to society as we've got at the moment.

Personally, I'd rather not be forcibly sterilized, hospitalized, and be removed from the gene pool and public stage because I have a minor physical disability where one of my eyes cannot be corrected to 20/20 vision so that our society can present a more perfect reflection of humanity in public.

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Old 04-21-2012, 07:58 AM   #33 (permalink)
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abortion and probably euthanasia won't be much of an issue in the future, I believe, with the human over-population

neither will using live subjects for medical and scientific research, if they were gonna die anyway
I disagree. Aborton will still be a big issue as you have many people who want no aborton allowed.
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Old 04-21-2012, 08:12 AM   #34 (permalink)
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I disagree. Aborton will still be a big issue as you have many people who want no aborton allowed.
i think your parents might disagree and have since regretted it
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Old 04-21-2012, 08:33 AM   #35 (permalink)
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I wonder how much of an issue renewable energy/environmental pursuits/water supply etc will be in the future... I know over here we have huge debates about things like desalination plants and other similar endeavours, I wonder if in the future we will look back on the huge debates and arguments surrounding this issue and find it absurd. Like I wonder if we will ever wonder why anyone would want to argue against these things, given that preserving the environment will probably more of an issue in years to come...
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Old 04-21-2012, 10:02 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Does this mean that you think prohibition works in practice? Or are you just up for cheap insults?
Of fucking course it doesnt... That is the whole point of my post. This has nothing to do with a "feud", anyone who thinks that criminalization of substances is an effective and beneficial means of curbing addiction is completely delusional. It's like saying "Hey if we banned guns then the world would have no more violence."
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Homophobia, and the fact that gay marriage is still not legal in places will be the big one I think.
The gender gap. The fact that women can get paid less for the same job that a man does.
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Old 04-21-2012, 11:16 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Of fucking course it doesnt... That is the whole point of my post. This has nothing to do with a "feud", anyone who thinks that criminalization of substances is an effective and beneficial means of curbing addiction is completely delusional. It's like saying "Hey if we banned guns then the world would have no more violence."
How effective prohibition is depends on environment and circumstance such as the availability of drugs and how the drug culture is. My point is we don't know how those circumstances are in the future and so prohibition could be viable. A lot of people just seem to assume it won't be.

And for the record, prohibition works just fine in present day Norway.
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Of fucking course it doesnt... That is the whole point of my post. This has nothing to do with a "feud", anyone who thinks that criminalization of substances is an effective and beneficial means of curbing addiction is completely delusional. It's like saying "Hey if we banned guns then the world would have no more violence."
Very effective use of hyperbole, because you know there's no middle ground in there! Very convincing argument!

And yeah, cut it with the insults. You can stop acting the genius in a room full of idiots, no one thinks it's as black and white as you're postulating.

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abortion and probably euthanasia won't be much of an issue in the future, I believe, with the human over-population

neither will using live subjects for medical and scientific research, if they were gonna die anyway
Perhaps people will sell their bodies to science to help pay for their funeral costs.

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REALLY? You do realize Eugenics is one of the angles HITLER used to justify the holocaust right?

Better question, how do you feel about Planned Parenthood? That kind of group is about as close to a moderate and sane application of eugenics to society as we've got at the moment.

Personally, I'd rather not be forcibly sterilized, hospitalized, and be removed from the gene pool and public stage because I have a minor physical disability where one of my eyes cannot be corrected to 20/20 vision so that our society can present a more perfect reflection of humanity in public.

I didn't say it was my idea, but society is definitely headed down a road of "everyone must be perfect clones of the other and there's a million things wrong with you even if you're perfect".

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I disagree. Aborton will still be a big issue as you have many people who want no aborton allowed.
i think your parents might disagree and have since regretted it
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