Boston Bombing

Freebase Dali · 04-15-2013, 10:34 PM

Such is the misappropriation of targeted emotional past.
Just like I was not responsible for slavery, and should not incur any backlash for it. But am in various ways.

I think this is just part of who we are. When we don't have a single person to blame, we blame the whole group. Gives us that necessary enemy.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 04-15-2013, 11:00 PM

Well I did say I was talking about the people who donated.
Go to any British news site and you'll see that what I said isn't an uncommon opinion.
And it's an opinion I hold said in understanding, not malice.

**Janszoon** · 04-15-2013, 11:18 PM

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Well I did say I was talking about the people who donated.

And those people are an absolutely miniscule sliver of a percentage of the population of the city you're talking about and extremely unlikely to be among the victims of the bombing. Which is precisely what makes the comment so inappropriate.

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Go to any British news site and you'll see that what I said isn't an uncommon opinion.

Not sure what I'm supposed to take from this. British people are assholes? Okay. Noted.

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And it's an opinion I hold said in understanding, not malice.

Well I sure hope "now you know how it feels" isn't something you say at funerals in an effort to convey understanding.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 04-15-2013, 11:35 PM

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And those people are an absolutely miniscule sliver of a percentage of the population of the city you're talking about and extremely unlikely to be among the victims of the bombing. Which is precisely what makes the comment so inappropriate.

I do realise that. It's still right in their backyard though.

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Not sure what I'm supposed to take from this. British people are assholes? Okay. Noted.

Or perhaps world weary having lived through it for 30 years week after week, month after month wondering if the next one will get anybody you know.

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Well I sure hope "now you know how it feels" isn't something you say at funerals in an effort to convey understanding.

Well I'm not at a funeral, and I'm glad you're upset by it... you should be.
I shouldn't have to know what it feels like and neither should you.

right-track · 04-16-2013, 12:09 AM

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I could very easily have had friends or family there (my parents have frequently volunteered at the finish line). Not a blessed fucking one of my family or friends back in Boston has ever financed the IRA and not a single one of them deserve to "know what it feels like". I like you both, but your comments are really fucking inappropriate and obnoxious.

Well I'm glad you, your family and friends are safe, Janzoon.
And I know exactly how you feel about this bombing.

I didn't for one second suggest any of your family or friends have helped fund the IRA at any point.

My reaction to this bombing is one of anger and it brings back too many memories.
I can't bring myself to apologise for wishing those who have donated money to fund terrorism, naively, or otherwise, now hopefully, know what it's like.

If that makes me obnoxious...so be it!

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 04-16-2013, 12:39 AM

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I'm from Boston originally actually and my parents frequently volunteer at the the medical booth at the finish line. Luckily they weren't doing it this year, but it still freaks me out.

I am really glad you family are okay and weren't volunteering this time. Is your friends in Boston okay? *hugs*

PoorOldPo · 04-16-2013, 05:56 AM

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Or perhaps world weary having lived through it for 30 years week after week, month after month wondering if the next one will get anybody you know.

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The exact same can be said for the other side, my father was a street down from the bomb that hit Dublin and Monaghan(the largest bombing death toll during the troubles, (33)), planted by the UDA, and there is evidence that the British Special Forces had a hand in it as well. Had my father been a block further down, I wouldn't be alive, and my grandmother would have lost two sons in one decade.

Nurse Duckett · 04-16-2013, 06:00 AM

If you ban a record it usually becomes a hit, when you give terrorism prime time news space the terrorists use it as a recruitment drive. I'm sure CNN and other American news networks know this, but they ignore it because they have advertising space to sell.

I've just spent 35 minutes watching CNN news pretending to keep America informed, know nothings talking to know nothings about things they know nothing about.

It was a terrible thing that happened and its changed some lives forever, and I have a lot of empathy for those involved or connected to anyone that was injured or killed in this terrorist attack. Journalists talking about it on tv 24-7 wont make it not happen or go away, it just gives a victory to the terrorist organization that carried out the attack. If these things weren't reported on the news they would stop because there would be no point in doing it, no media coverage means no recruitment drive and no publicity and no victory for the terrorist, but like I said earlier the American news networks have advertising space to sell and obviously that's more important to the networks than the safety of American people. What other conclusion am I supposed to come to.

**Janszoon** · 04-16-2013, 07:35 AM

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Well I'm glad you, your family and friends are safe, Janzoon.
And I know exactly how you feel about this bombing.

I didn't for one second suggest any of your family or friends have helped fund the IRA at any point.

My reaction to this bombing is one of anger and it brings back too many memories.
I can't bring myself to apologise for wishing those who have donated money to fund terrorism, naively, or otherwise, now hopefully, know what it's like.

If that makes me obnoxious...so be it!

Except, like I said, there is absolutely no reason to think any of the victims donated money to fund terrorism. That's why your comments are so god damn obnoxious. The fact that you're apparently so unrepentant about it is honestly kind of nauseating.

PoorOldPo · 04-16-2013, 08:01 AM

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Except, like I said, there is absolutely no reason to think any of the victims donated money to fund terrorism. That's why your comments are so god damn obnoxious. The fact that you're apparently so unrepentant about it is honestly kind of nauseating.

^

It would be like someone from Ireland saying the same thing, if a load of unarmed civil rights protesters were shot down in England.

"Now they know what it feels like"

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If that makes me obnoxious...so be it!

So be it.

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Such is the misappropriation of targeted emotional past.
Just like I was not responsible for slavery, and should not incur any backlash for it. But am in various ways.

I think this is just part of who we are. When we don't have a single person to blame, we blame the whole group. Gives us that necessary enemy.

Yeah I see the same over here, with some of the old schoolers around where I live. They blame every British person instead of the select few who did all of the horrible things in the local area. Some of them are perplexed that I have such close English friends. They are a dying breed though, and rare even amongst their age group, thank god.

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Nurse Duckett Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 148	If you ban a record it usually becomes a hit, when you give terrorism prime time news space the terrorists use it as a recruitment drive. I'm sure CNN and other American news networks know this, but they ignore it because they have advertising space to sell. I've just spent 35 minutes watching CNN news pretending to keep America informed, know nothings talking to know nothings about things they know nothing about. It was a terrible thing that happened and its changed some lives forever, and I have a lot of empathy for those involved or connected to anyone that was injured or killed in this terrorist attack. Journalists talking about it on tv 24-7 wont make it not happen or go away, it just gives a victory to the terrorist organization that carried out the attack. If these things weren't reported on the news they would stop because there would be no point in doing it, no media coverage means no recruitment drive and no publicity and no victory for the terrorist, but like I said earlier the American news networks have advertising space to sell and obviously that's more important to the networks than the safety of American people. What other conclusion am I supposed to come to.