Cuthbert

I like to rant and I find their story ridiculous.

When two girls who think that it's all a simple game try it, fail and then try and bullshit their way out of it by asking for sympathy or support then fuck off, they deserve it.

The Batlord

They deserve two decades of being locked up with hardened criminals for being stupid? They deserve two decades of their lives being thrown away for trying to get out of jail the same as anyone else in their situation would?

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Cuthbert

If that's the law and they've knowingly broke it then yes.

Unknown Soldier

You keep saying this over and over again, BUT the law is not the same for all there, so it's hardly justice. Secondly, you seem to be condoning the justice system of Peru like its sacrosanct and beyond criticism. This in itself runs contrary to what you said earlier, in that you don't really care about the crime, more the fact that they were lying to get sympathy. Also it's debatable on how much that they actually knew about the laws there as well, as they weren't issued with an English translation of Peruvian laws.

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Cuthbert

If the law says drug trafficking is punishable by up to 20 years in prison and they're found guilty of drug trafficking then I'm failing to see how they shouldn't get a heavy sentence for smuggling 1.5m of coke.

Yeah, there is a chance they thought it was legal to bring 11kg of coke back.

Unknown Soldier

That's not what's being debated here, what is being debated is how unjust the legal system is there to impose this type of sentence. Also you've avoided again the question that was put to you earlier. And that was why should you feel so strongly about them being sentenced, when you don't overly care about the actual crime?

Nobody has suggested that, all that I've suggested is that they didn't know the severity of the crime when caught. Cocaine is a party drug that people have a good time with and there is no reason why two silly young girls should be aware of the draconian laws attached to it in Peru. I very much doubt that the dealers that got them involved, were on-hand to issue warnings about the risks that the operation entailed.

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Trollheart

I don't get why you guys don't seem to think this is a big deal. Seriously, what would you have happen? It's not like they tried to smuggle a small amount of coke in: it was eleven kilos! That's like filling my biggest, fattest cat up with coke and then cloning him twice and filling those two up also. That is a LOT of coke! This is no "oh we didn't know" situation: these girls clearly knew they were taking a risk but decided the money was worth it. How US can say they may not have known Peruvian law is beyond me: it's well known that countries outside of Europe have harsher laws for drug smuggling to try and reduce it. Anyway, if they were going to do this do you not think they would have checked out the penalties if they were caught? If they didn't they were either monumentally stupid or believed there was no chance they would get caught OR if they did, they could lie their way out of it.

Nobody likes being used. People have been used here: used to try to protest the innocence of two stupid women who do not deserve it, and people are angry at them. I can't understand your tolerance for this sort of thing. Why should it NOT be a big deal? What sort of message does it send to future would-be smugglers if these people are not clamped down upon hard?

And yes, I know the barons get off because they can pay, but hey that's just how the world works. Same as when the scandal in Abu Gharib broke: who went down? A few soldiers and some bog-level officers. No top brass, even though it was clear they knew and had possibly condoned this behaviour. If this was an ideal world ALL of the guilty would be punished but it's not and sometimes it's the foot soldiers who pay. The fact that they are willing to BE footsoldiers makes them just as guilty and just as liable to prosecution as the bosses.

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Cuthbert

I don't feel 'strongly' about it really. They're just lying ****s who have been caught trafficking drugs, loads of people try it but they're the ones who've been caught, they should get a harsh sentence if they're found guilty.

You don’t **** about like they have in countries like that, you’re asking for trouble.

Hopefully by the time they're sentenced there is something on Facebook I can like that will make sure they get 25 years.

That they'd likely get many years in prison for it? I'm sure everyone would know this. You cannot seriously think you can smuggle the amount of coke they tried to smuggle and expect to get a slap on the wrist ffs .