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Old 05-25-2014, 08:50 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Once in a billion chance? This is the problem with your thinking: you're acting like misogynistic crimes and violent acts committed toward women are isolated incidents. In a world where one in six women are raped I have no respect for humans who don't treat sexism and mysogyny as the plague it is. Jessica Valenti said it better than I can:

"The truth is that there is no such thing as a lone misogynist – they are created by our culture, and by communities that tells them that their hatred is both commonplace and justified."

those stats are very loaded and i dont take them seriously whatsoever and neither should anyone else. they are really misleading. obviously rape happens but not in the numbers you throw out there. because one guy in california shot 4 men and 2 sorority girls shouldnt really frighten anyone that it didnt directly involve. fearful living is just a sad way to go thru life

youre buying into this fear mongering culture we have and i hope you can buy out of it at some point

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Old 05-25-2014, 08:50 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Right I have read the posts over the last few pages and seen some people take issue with my posts and the way I've come across.

I would like to offer a sincere apology to JD, Arya, Sansa and anyone else on here who either took offense to my posts or felt that I was trivialising the murders as this was not my intention and I do not think they are funny in the slightest, though I have read my posts and can see why people would think this (not defending it) which is understandable.

I will rethink what I say in future and won't post anything like that again. Apologies again.

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those stats are very loaded and i dont take them seriously whatsoever and neither should anyone else. they are really misleading. obviously rape happens but not in the numbers you throw out there. because one guy in california shot 4 men and 2 sorority girls shouldnt really frighten anyone that it didnt directly involve. fearful living is just a sad way to go thru life
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ok well im not making it up. look for yourself. i can provide additional info if ya want but those stats are totally bloated


its probably closer to 1 in 400, not 1 in 6


im not here to troll, if anyone wants to dig deeper into that just lemme know. i would be happy to explain the statistics. if not then i wont continue. thanks


edit - also dont appreciate the attack or name calling since i havent done so

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Right I have read the posts over the last few pages and seen some people take issue with my posts and the way I've come across.

I would like to offer a sincere apology to JD, Arya, Sansa and anyone else on here who either took offense to my posts or felt that I was trivialising the murders as this was not my intention and I do not think they are funny in the slightest, though I have read my posts and can see why people would think this (not defending it) which is understandable.

I will rethink what I say in future and won't post anything like that again. Apologies again.

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I PMed you as well but it was really great of you to apologize. A lot of people have said a lot worse than you about this situation and still have no remorse so your understanding is a wonderful thing
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the media would love to get everyone in a frenzy and scared. we live in a culture of fear mongering from the media and a general population who craves being victims. theres no reason to live your life scared
Indeed. Frightened is what they want us. Far easier to bullsh*t a population, to introduce more laws and take away freedoms when they're scared, sh*t, they'll even believe the loss of freedom is for their own good.
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Indeed. Frightened is what they want us. Far easier to bullsh*t a population, to introduce more laws and take away freedoms when they're scared, sh*t, they'll even believe the loss of freedom is for their own good.
i agree completely. i really wasnt tryin to be personal in this thread but these are all of my true thoughts, take em or leave em. there will be ppl on earth with differing opinion and i can back up mine with plenty of facts anytime someone needs them

its like the terrorist stuff. there always this media sensationalism and fear mongering which over dramatizes and over hypes the news to keep you watching their programs. in turn, more isolated incidents SEEM like they are much more prevalent than what they are.


it applies to rape stats too. if u look at those feminists around college campuses spewing that 1 in 4 women are raped, then do the research yourself, u end up seeing that the study was completely loded purposely to bloat the stats because of self-interest.


what the best way to get someone to follow your idealogy or plans?? Fear.
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ok well im not making it up. look for yourself. i can provide additional info if ya want but those stats are totally bloated


its probably closer to 1 in 400, not 1 in 6


im not here to troll, if anyone wants to dig deeper into that just lemme know. i would be happy to explain the statistics. if not then i wont continue. thanks


edit - also dont appreciate the attack or name calling since i havent done so
I thought the CDC figure was one out of five or 20% - being raped or attempt of being raped.
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I thought the CDC figure was one out of five or 20% - being raped or attempt of being raped.
a lot of the stats that get thrown around are from a study done by some lady named mary kross back in 1985. i think it was a college rape study or something. anyways the short version is that she just asked sexual questions then decided afterwards whether she considered it to be rape or not....

there was a lot of ambiguity in the questions. women who had regretful one night stands where they had been drinking were considered to be raped


of the women kross considered to be raped, only 27% of those women considered themselves to be raped.


there is a huge difference in statistics if you look at the cdc, and say, the fbi statistics. most of that is accounted for by survey questions that include phrasings that boil down to 'have you ever had drunk sex'.

if youd like to include drunk or high sex as rape then so be it, but i find it really misleading and contributing to our fear mongering culture. maybe its to help increase funding for womens centers, i dont know the reasoning.



of course i have empathy towards real rape victims in the way that i define rape. the point im makin is that its not nearly as prevalent as ppl think.

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In a telephone survey with a 30 percent response rate, interviewers did not ask participants whether they had been raped. Instead of such straightforward questions, the CDC researchers described a series of sexual encounters and then they determined whether the responses indicated sexual violation. A sample of 9,086 women was asked, for example, “When you were drunk, high, drugged, or passed out and unable to consent, how many people ever had vaginal sex with you?” A majority of the 1.3 million women (61.5 percent) the CDC projected as rape victims in 2010 experienced this sort of “alcohol or drug facilitated penetration.
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Participants were asked if they had ever had sex because someone pressured them by “telling you lies, making promises about the future they knew were untrue?” All affirmative answers were counted as “sexual violence.” Anyone who consented to sex because a suitor wore her or him down by “repeatedly asking” or “showing they were unhappy” was similarly classified as a victim of violence.

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