Reasons you believe God/don't believe God?

RoxyRollah · 07-28-2015, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I realize that. I find it odd that so many so-called Christians would rather I go to hell than have an awkward conversation with me. I just don't particularly care. Have at your religion all you want, I don't care, whatever makes you happy, but as far as I'm concerned your religion can go **** itself because it's stupid and I don't wanna hear about it.

And that goes for all of you. Yes, Roxy, if you sat me down and explained to me exactly what your beliefs were, I will almost certainly think they are stupid. You may not be stupid, but in all likelihood I will find your belief in some guy who walked on water to be as stupid as Tom Cruise's belief in Xenu.

I'm "happy" that some of you freaks want me not to suffer eternal torment, but I just don't care about anything you have to say.

Would you like to reconstruct that sentence?

Except I belive in letting people come to me. I dont evangelize.I dont believe in it.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 07-28-2015, 07:23 PM

now i know who to pm on judgement day

**Frownland** · 07-28-2015, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

i'm saying i'm counting on the fact that basically every english translation of the quran has the same basic message in regard to what happens if you don't join camp-allah

There's quite a bit of disparity between translations obviously, it being such an old text and all. I'm not saying that there isn't a less hyperbolic element of what you describe in the Quran at points, but that's hardly exclusive to Islam and the Quran offers far more than what you're trying to boil it down to such as the quote I referenced earlier.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 07-28-2015, 07:36 PM

lol... i'm not saying there's not a less hyperbolic version of what you describe = you are right, mr booth, but i'm too frownlandish to say it

and i didn't 'boil it down' to that cause i clearly stated that i havent read huge portions of it.. i simply described the impression i got each time i did give it a try. so don't you go trying to bring any strawmen in here mr frownland

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 07-28-2015, 07:39 PM

to my credit... i didn't cherry pick verses... i started at the book's beginning. so i guess my overall point is at least the intro to the quran is pretty much a big **** you to all you non-allah-believing MBers

**Frownland** · 07-28-2015, 07:41 PM

Yes I was agreeing with you but I can't tell if you're serious or not with that approach so I had to add in the qualifier.

You're correct, you didn't boil it down you painted it with a broad brush. Even if you may not know exactly what you were painting.

**Frownland** · 07-28-2015, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

to my credit... i didn't cherry pick verses... i started at the book's beginning. so i guess my overall point is at least the intro to the quran is pretty much a big **** you to all you non-allah-believing MBers

This is the first surah

Quote:

In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful:

All Praise is due to Allah, Lord of the Universe

The Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.

Owner of the Day of Judgement.

You alone do we worship, and You alone we turn to for help

Guide us to the straight path;

The path of those on whom You have bestowed your grace, not (the way) of those who have earned Your anger, nor of those who went astray.

At the end you find out that Muhammad was dead the whole time.

RoxyRollah · 07-28-2015, 07:46 PM

I can say that in Arabic.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 07-28-2015, 08:01 PM

yea... i am happy to say i did make it past the first surah, all the way to the much more wordy 2nd surah.

Chula Vista · 07-28-2015, 08:04 PM

Que surah surah, whatever will be, will be.

07-28-2015, 07:41 PM	#366 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	Yes I was agreeing with you but I can't tell if you're serious or not with that approach so I had to add in the qualifier. You're correct, you didn't boil it down you painted it with a broad brush. Even if you may not know exactly what you were painting. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	Que surah surah, whatever will be, will be. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

07-28-2015, 07:23 PM	#362 (permalink)
~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	now i know who to pm on judgement day

07-28-2015, 07:36 PM	#364 (permalink)
~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	lol... i'm not saying there's not a less hyperbolic version of what you describe = you are right, mr booth, but i'm too frownlandish to say it and i didn't 'boil it down' to that cause i clearly stated that i havent read huge portions of it.. i simply described the impression i got each time i did give it a try. so don't you go trying to bring any strawmen in here mr frownland

07-28-2015, 07:39 PM	#365 (permalink)
~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	to my credit... i didn't cherry pick verses... i started at the book's beginning. so i guess my overall point is at least the intro to the quran is pretty much a big **** you to all you non-allah-believing MBers

07-28-2015, 08:01 PM	#369 (permalink)
~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	yea... i am happy to say i did make it past the first surah, all the way to the much more wordy 2nd surah.