Originally Posted by Frownland

Lighten up, he clearly understood the rest of the post but not that part and wanted you to clarify. Not everyone on here is always trying to attack you, as far as I know I'm the only one who prides in that.

As far as the OP goes, killing him won't bring back the victims. But I guess life in prison won't bring back the victims. I think the real question is how do we resurrect those people and if we can, is it ethical?

Originally Posted by Frownland

I would understand if that actually occurred in this thread. Everyone wanted to know what your on about. It's a shame that a need for clarification is a vicious attack these days.

Originally Posted by Frownland

Believe what you will.

Originally Posted by Soulflower

I agree.


I don't see how giving him the death penalty is going to bring justice to the families because killing this 21 year old boy is not going to bring any of the victims back.

I think the only reason why they gave him the death penalty was because they felt he should have "shown" more remorse but imo just because his remorse might not have been as visible in court does not mean he was not remorseful about what he did.


However, having this attractive boy live the rest of his life in a cell causes more emotional and psychological damage versus giving him a slow painless death. What is the message that we are trying to send? What is the lesson that needs to be learned? It also would have given him more time to reflect more on what he did and how he ended up in his predicament in the first place.

Originally Posted by Chula Vista

He set off that bomb with pure evil ill intent. All for a "cause". I'm sure at the time he wished to kill a lot of innocent people, considering the circumstances.

F*ck him.

You wanna pull that **** here? You die as a result.

And Soul, what the hell with the "attractive boy" crap?

Originally Posted by Soulflower

Did you read my entire post before you pointed out that one thing? I just asked because you are taking a phrase out of context when I made my stance clear in my post.

Originally Posted by Trollheart

That's a great Freudian slip man! You obviously meant "ascend upon Heaven" but said descend, which indicates Hell of course...

I'm assuming she means had he been sentenced to life in prison, being a relatively young and good looking guy he would have had a lot of "girlfriends" inside. Which, given the reported muslim aversion to homosexuality, might have been a living hell for him...

From Heaven of course.


I'm not sure how I feel about the death penalty. Some crimes are definitely heinous enough that the savage in me wants to be revenged by the person's own life being taken. I mean, life in prison? Sometimes it's not that long and anyway that person (say a murderer) gets to live (albeit confined), maybe learn new skills, find God, whatever, while the people they murdered can't do that. Not to mention, in this instance, sending him to prison could provide a focal point for other homegrown insurgents, who might try to get him out or make a shrine of his cell. Maybe he'd become more powerful a symbol alive and imprisoned than he would as a martyr.

It's hard to say, but in the end I think death is the best outcome here. Just doesn't feel like justice is done, if you see him in years to come giving interviews, writing books, released if he gets sick? I don't know. I'd feel happier with the **** gone off the planet. But that's just me.

Originally Posted by Trollheart

Or she could have been saying that. It would be nice if she would come in and clarify, rather than one of her usual "didn't you read my post", um, posts? Well yes we did but it was in no way clear what you were getting at, as both Urban and I have arrived at totally different conclusions, and Chula thinks something else altogether.

Originally Posted by Soulflower

It would be nice if you addressed what you disagreed with in a respectful way instead of being disrespectful and patronizing every time you disagree. This is not just with me because I notice you do the same to other members as if your font is some superior being and everyone is suppose to bow down to your opinion as law. I am not sure what stick you have up your ass or what your problem is but I am not putting up with your b.s.

Your encouragement thread is a joke when you have been disrespectful yourself here on occasions.

Originally Posted by Soulflower

Its easy for you to say when you are not the one that is constantly being attacked.

Originally Posted by Frownland

I would understand if that actually occurred in this thread. Everyone wanted to know what your on about. It's a shame that a need for clarification is a vicious attack these days.

Originally Posted by Soulflower

Troll hart was being condescending and he called me out my name and has been very disrespectful in the past.


He was looking for a clap back, so me being the person I am, I did.

Originally Posted by Soulflower

Of course just look over the fact he called me an idiot but wants to make a thread about encouraging other members.

Originally Posted by fiddler

There's the entire conversation between you two. Couple of points:
1) I don't really see where he was being condescending by asking for clarification.
2) He never called you an idiot.
3) The past isn't now.
4) Can we just move on now?

Originally Posted by Soulflower

If you don't see how that was condescending than I am at a lost for words.

He most definitely was being condescending.


Whats funny is some want to call me obnoxious but whats obnoxious and rude is calling someone an idiot and names just because you disagree with their opinion.