Is "Avengers: Age of Ultron" sexist?

Oriphiel · 05-24-2015, 04:30 AM

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grtwhtgrvty · 05-24-2015, 04:38 AM

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Thank you. I have no idea why I was banned. The reason said "trolling." So I have no idea. So I don't plan on changing my behavior even remotely, which means another ban is likely in the forseeable future.

Oriphiel · 05-24-2015, 04:45 AM

Going back to your thoughts on the topic, that seems to be the general consensus to far, and it looks like we're all pretty much in agreement; that Black Widow was poorly written in that scene, and it enforced old stereotypes, but it wasn't necessarily insanely "sexist" or at least not to the level that would justify people being outraged.

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DwnWthVwls · 05-24-2015, 10:35 AM

What's wrong with

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I also agree with the general feelings expressed in this thread.

Josef K · 05-24-2015, 10:46 AM

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Obviously the star of the movie is going to defend it. I don't think it's misogynistic but it is objectively sexist. I don't think it deserves outrage. Like there are women being raped and beaten and used and you're going to go into a tumblr outrage because the avengers movie subconsciously enforces gender stereotyping? That's the problem with SJW culture -- they are more keen on addressing things like this as opposed to much more serious, life threatening and expression destroying oppression and systematic gender control.

This is so meaningless in the grand scheme of things but I think people are mad because it's yet another casual example of how ****ed up and ingrained the patriarchal mindset is.

TL;DR it's stupid and ****ed up but there are bigger fish to fry. That being said I appreciate that we live in a society where things like this are paid attention to. I think it shows a sense of progression because 30 years ago noone would have cared.

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You can have problems with multiple things at once - there's no way that me saying that the movie is sexist keeps me from saying that more "meaningful" things are too.

ETA: I guess this Wikipedia page would've made more sense: Fallacy of Relative Privation - Wikipedia, the Free Encyclopedia

DwnWthVwls · 05-24-2015, 11:01 AM

^I didn't know there was a name for that.

Oriphiel · 05-24-2015, 12:18 PM

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What's wrong with

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It killed my family, leaving me as the sole survivor and arbiter of the vengeance that I shall one day claim.

**Frownland** · 05-24-2015, 12:29 PM

You're a regular Batlord wearing down jokes that were lame to begin with to death.

Oriphiel · 05-24-2015, 12:39 PM

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You're a regular Batlord wearing down jokes that were lame to begin with to death.

And you're a walking stereotype with nary an original thought in your head, which is the prime reason for why you overcompensate by trying so desperately to fulfill what you perceive to be the archetype of "the scholar". We're all flawed.

**Frownland** · 05-24-2015, 12:40 PM

So we both have things we can work on then.

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