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Old 11-19-2016, 02:11 PM   #4451 (permalink)
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It's now or never for the electoral college. Keeping us safe from our own populist idiocy is what it's there for. Hopefully, they'll have the balls to refuse to hand over the reins to Trump. Not because Hillary won the popular vote but because Trump was obviously a very bad choice and they exist to safeguard against us against people like Trump becoming president. Sign the petition.
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Old 11-19-2016, 02:24 PM   #4452 (permalink)
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It's now or never for the electoral college. Keeping us safe from our own populist idiocy is what it's there for. Hopefully, they'll have the balls to refuse to hand over the reins to Trump. Not because Hillary won the popular vote but because Trump was obviously a very bad choice and they exist to safeguard against us against people like Trump becoming president. Sign the petition.
doesn't matter how many votes the petition gets. It's not gonna happen.
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Old 11-19-2016, 02:44 PM   #4454 (permalink)
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It's now or never for the electoral college. Keeping us safe from our own populist idiocy is what it's there for.
Interesting debate here. Vast majority think it needs to be reformed.

Should the electoral college be reformed? | Debate.org
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Old 11-19-2016, 02:53 PM   #4455 (permalink)
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I see this meme and others like it (they usually focus on highly populated counties instead of states like this one) a lot and I always think/reply "One man, one vote...unless you happen to live near a lot of other men."
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People in Texas, Florida, and most of California shouldn't be allowed to vote anyway.

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People in Texas, Florida, and most of California shouldn't be allowed to vote anyway.

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I agree. If it didn't open the door to so much politically/racially/whatever motivated voter suppression, I'd be all about a qualifying test for the right to vote.
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I actually think that gridlock is a good thing in general. There are cases where they're obstructing decent things, but generally it keeps things at an even level.
It is nice to have checks and balance in place but not when they are so stubborn to the point of shutting down the government because they want to be contrary. It's messed up when the citizens end up having to pay the price of their political posturing.
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It is nice to have checks and balance in place but not when they are so stubborn to the point of shutting down the government because they want to be contrary. It's messed up when the citizens end up having to pay the price of their political posturing.
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"One man, one vote...unless you happen to live near a lot of other men."
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This says it all:

States where the margin of victory was under 1% (30 electoral votes - Trump wins 26 - Clinton wins 4):

Michigan, 0.27% - Trump
New Hampshire, 0.37% - Clinton
Wisconsin, 0.81% - Trump

Trump wins the 3 states by 0.47% of the popular vote yet walks away with 86.7% of the electoral votes.

And she's officially as of today a whole percentage point ahead of him in votes - 48% to 47% - yet he gets 55.65% of the electoral votes.

The system needs some tweaking.
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