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Old 11-28-2016, 03:38 PM   #4631 (permalink)
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Here's the thing. For every negative thing you can accuse Clinton of, you can basically accuse Trump of pretty much the same. Questionable financial dealings to build personal wealth being the most common ground between them.

But Trump has a ****load more baggage in other areas.

And, for every positive thing you can point to that Clinton has done politically and privately to help kids, women, gays, US security, etc., there's basically nothing you can point to in Trump's career that even comes close to having the same positive results.

That's why I get so pissed when people are so quick to lump them together at the hip.
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If you believe the caricatures of Trump, ja.
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Old 11-28-2016, 03:43 PM   #4633 (permalink)
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Here's the thing. For every negative thing you can accuse Clinton of, you can basically accuse Trump of pretty much the same. Questionable financial dealings to build personal wealth being the most common ground between them.

But Trump has a ****load more baggage in other areas.

And, for every positive thing you can point to that Clinton has done politically and privately to help kids, women, gays, US security, etc., there's basically nothing you can point to in Trump's career that even comes close to having the same positive results.

That's why I get so pissed when people are so quick to lump them together at the hip.
Trust me, I'm in no way insinuating that Clinton is anywhere near as bad as Trump, hence why I voted for her. However, you can't dispute that she ran a god awful campaign. She has a lot of great things in her political history, and she's a popular figure in politics, but for her to use that for her entire basis of a campaign was a bad move. She should have put forward ideas that she knows she could achieve instead of acting like people already knew her strengths.

Not to mention the two email scandals really hurt her campaign, which I'm of the opinion that there should have not been another investigation so close to election day. That alone effected the numbers.

But...at the same time, we can't forget the large number of people that didn't even bother voting. People are just fed up with the same old same old, and they refuse to let it happen any longer. Unfortunately, that's what caused us to be put into the situation we're in now.
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However, you can't dispute that she ran a god awful campaign.
Hindsight is always 20/20. The polls in the months leading up to election night made her and her staff think they were running things just fine.

Polls have never been so far off in the modern history of elections. It will be interesting to see how they get played up (or not) in 2020.
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If you believe the caricatures of Trump, ja.
Do some solid research on the guy. The reality is even worse than the caricatures.
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I've read the Huffington Post articles.
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I've read the Huffington Post articles.
Stop acting like a petulant child. You might want to actually grow a pair someday.
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Stop acting like a petulant child. You might want to actually grow a pair someday.
Stop acting like a sanctimonious old man who sees the world through the lens of the media. You might actually be respected one day.
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Stop acting like a sanctimonious old man who sees the world through the lens of the media.
**** off. Don't assume how I form my opinions. Don't try and lump me in with a broad brush demographic that you've formed in your head. And while we're on the subject, don't be an *******. Your act has once again grown seriously stale.

Grow the **** up.
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I think you need a nap, you were the one throwing around cranky insults first.

If you didn't reflect the worldview of someone with mean-world syndrome, I wouldn't call you out on it, btw. Just like how you point out that I'm an *******.
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