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Old 08-12-2016, 05:53 PM   #2451 (permalink)
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Getting kind of sick of hearing this ****. With an incredible amount of scrutiny on her for the last 20 years no-one has come up with anything to actually charge her with. 8 GOP led committees spend $7 million bucks and came up with nothing about Benghazi. She's got more political experience than probably any candidate in my lifetime and she's well regarded around the world by our allies.

8 years first lady of Arkansas
8 years first lady of the USA
8 years senator of New York
4 years secretary of state

Lesser public figures with a ton less scrutiny have been charged and convicted over the past 20 years. She's been under the biggest microscope with an entire political establishment foaming at the mouth to destroy her and yet here she is.

Enough already with the hyperbole. Criminal warlord? Really?
Gulf War
All kinds of corrupt dealings with the uber-rich
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Old 08-12-2016, 06:05 PM   #2452 (permalink)
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Also, lying her way out of a police investigation. That's a fun one.
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Old 08-12-2016, 06:16 PM   #2453 (permalink)
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Also, lying her way out of a police investigation. That's a fun one.
I respect that one though

I don't respect profiteering off of the deaths of hundreds of thousands of third world people though
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Old 08-12-2016, 07:27 PM   #2454 (permalink)
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The fact that you don't think she's corrupt proves my point. You're blind like the rest of her supporters.
So you have nothing then?
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You mean The Iraq War? Between the house and the senate the vote was 374 to 156 in favor of going to war. That's 70.6% voting Yea. You must dislike a lot of them politicians, right?

Face it, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Rice conned a lot of Congress over that war.

Can you list any of these supposed corrupt dealings with the uber rich?
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Old 08-12-2016, 09:25 PM   #2456 (permalink)
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One thing I learned is that you can't trust polls. Especially if they are from Fox News. Because Fox News polls are based on the opinions of people that watch Fox News, not the opinions of our country as a whole.
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And with my interactions with people it seems 50/50.
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Old 08-13-2016, 12:48 AM   #2458 (permalink)
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One thing I learned is that you can't trust polls. Especially if they are from Fox News. Because Fox News polls are based on the opinions of people that watch Fox News, not the opinions of our country as a whole.
It also goes the other way. Some of these polls are conducted with a democratic bias and are then passed off as representative of the whole country.

I don't deny that Clinton is smoking Trump right now, but I have a hard time believing that a good portion of his support that he had post-convention is now suddenly withering away, when you consider the fact that Trump supporters comprise one of the most locked up bases a candidate could ever hope for.

In other words, if they weren't offended by all of the things he's said over the past year, what makes people think they'll dump him over the Khan thing or his recent Second Amendment comments?
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Old 08-13-2016, 01:57 AM   #2459 (permalink)
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I've stated several times that Trump is a ridiculous candidate. The fact that he and Hillary are in the running is a farce. But I like Trump more than her and he would strike less fear in me if I were an American.
Well good thing you aren't an American. Why exactly does he strike less fear in you? I don't want to just automatically assume it's because you are white and xenophobic but I guess it kind of fits. Especially with you voting to leave for Brexit.

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So, you won't give a third party the chance to do well, you'll wait until they've done well enough to vote for them. And instead of helping that cause, you'll instead throw your vote towards someone who is corrupt and you know is a bad vote. Yeah, that makes way more sense than trying to change the game when both candidates are ****.
You have to be realistic and the reality of the situation is this. If more people decide that they want to stick to their principles and vote for a third party. It will end up just splitting the vote. This could be a way for Trump to win and I'm not sure why his team isn't like doing some underhanded stuff to push more third party candidates to the forefront. If people are stupid enough to vote for a third party instead of the necessary evil then it splits the votes that Hillary would get and Trump would end up winning with his little bit of votes.

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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Hillary isn't exactly getting good air time either. People are voting for Trump to not vote for Hillary, and the people not voting for Hillary just aren't putting votes in. So, Trump has more legitimate supporters on his side, while Hillary just has the votes of those that don't want Trump in office. I, myself am refusing to vote until I see a legitimate third party candidate, and if there isn't one, I won't be voting for either. I can't conscientiously vote for either sides at the current moment.
Legitimate or not, in swing states where votes actually matter. A vote is a vote, so what if it's an anti-vote/lesser of two evils vote. Have you looked at the current third party candidates? Can you name them? Maybe you should do the research and look into them yourself.

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Don't underestimate the stupidity of the average American. Dumb asses on both sides, but Trump is gaining the most dumb asses because he knows how to appeal to dumbasses. Before you know it we'll be watering our crops with Gatorade.
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Trump is going to win.

Anybody notice that the 'Republicans' that support Trump are actually more Liberal and how they are now starting to slander the Liberals by saying they are going to take our guns? People are retarded. America is a pathetic country of under educated simpletons and that's why Trump is doing well because he is the face of America.
Woo hooo more America bashing. So edgy and original.

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One thing I learned is that you can't trust polls. Especially if they are from Fox News. Because Fox News polls are based on the opinions of people that watch Fox News, not the opinions of our country as a whole.
Yeah, that's true you can't trust polls but even Trump himself is losing faith that he can win the election. He's relying on polls and even made a comment recently about how with him losing in two key states. He knows he has lost the election. Remember this isn't really a popular vote kind of thing. You just have to rely on the electoral college to toss in their votes for each state. So the whole thing about idiots voting blah blah blah. Doesn't even ****ing matter. He's not going to win.
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