The Batlord

Lol. Trollheart doesn't appreciate making light of "The Troubles", so this should be good.

We were actually pretty badass around WWI, we just hadn't reached our imperial potential yet.

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John Wilkes Booth

"pretty badass," maybe

but we weren't the sole military superpower that we became post-ww2

The Batlord

True, but we probably could have taken any one country in the world at that point.

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William_the_Bloody

Quebec has personal control over the amount of immigration they receive into their Province each year via the Canada-Quebec Accord of 1991, and with the average Quebec sovereignist mindset aligning itself closely to the likes of Marine Le Pen, I doubt that things will change much. They've got things pretty comfy right now, I think they would rather hang onto Canada that risk the economic stagnation that comes with demographic decline.

The SNP on the other hand seems pretty pro multicultural in wanting to loosen immigration controls. The UK has lots of immigrants, the problem is, is they all want to head to London & the south where it's warm. Independence might fall in their favour in this regard, as they could directly take in a lot of immigrants from India and the middle east to counteract their demographic decline.

Cuthbert

I would guess outside of London the south of England has a population of 85% white British at the least. Can't imagine anywhere there with a large immigrant population (Bristol perhaps)

Glasgow has got quite a high Asian immigrant population by Scotland's standards, Birmingham and Leicester (Midlands) have loads of all sorts, if the latter isn't the first UK city where whites are a minority it will be very soon. I'm sure I read something that white kids in schools are minorities there. Bradford also, high Asian immigration (much of Yorkshire is the same really I guess).

Unknown Soldier

If you mean warm as in the weather, well there's hardly any difference between the south and north of the England in terms of temperature, it's not like somebody having to choose between New York or Los Angeles for example

Scotland though is a harsher climate but immigrants are usually never that bothered about climates anyway, take Canada for example the huge amount of immigrants are not going there for the warm weather but for economic opportunities. Also Scotland does have a reputation for a negative attitude towards visible immigrants so that doesn't help either.

You forgot Southampton which has a large immigrant population and you could also include Cradiff which is just across from Bristol.

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Cuthbert

Good post.

Wiki saying Soton 93% white? True about Cardiff but when you say 'the south' most are going to assume southern England, Wales is Wales Scotland is Scotland, north/south divide etc.

Unknown Soldier

I just mentioned Cardiff as it is just a stones throw from Bristol. In fact the only part of England that does not really have a visible immigrant population is the south west excluding Bristol and the east like Norwich and Lincoln.

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William_the_Bloody

Well immigration doesn't have to be non white, I understand that you've had a huge influx of Eastern Europeans into the UK as a result of being part of the EU.

I'm just trying to figure out why no one heads North, if its not climate than it must be jobs.

My reasoning for immigrants from India and the middle east is because if the SNP achieves independence, and then gets mopped up by the EU (The most likely end result) I can't think why anyone from Poland or Romania would want to move to Glasgow when they can go to Berlin, London or Paris. The Scots would have to bring in people from countries where Scotland can provide a significant improvement in people's standard of living.

An independent Scotland is not going to attract EU migrants, honestly Belgrade would be more appealing than Glasgow.


That's it than, it's about economic opportunities, that explains it.

A negative attitude towards visible minorities, really? Are SNP supporters aware of their party's strong stance on immigration and multiculturalism?

The NDP was leading our current election in Canada largely as a result of Quebec, until their stance on multicultural & immigration issues (niqab, Syrian refugees) became more clear, now they're dumping them and going back to the separatist party, which is rather culturally nationalist.

A bummer for me, I need the NDP in power, at least for 1 term.

PS: I underline stuff just so my long paragraphs are easier and not boring to read.

Cuthbert

True, lots of Poles and Romanians. If you mean north of England, Liverpool and Manchester have large numbers of Irish, going back decades, I'd guess probably 30% of the people there have at least one Irish grandparent, same goes for Brum. Liverpool has the oldest black communities in the UK and Manchester plus it's surrounding towns have quite a lot of Asians too.

Jobs I don't know, if I was an immigrant I would be thinking I probably wouldn't want to go to London. It is multicultural but the people I know who have gone there to live and work say it's kind of shit to live in unless you're loaded.

Any reason why?