Brexit? Yay or Nay.

RoxyRollah · 06-24-2016, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Lol no sir.

Uhhh.....I beg to differ...you threw any gays off a buliding today in Cali? Or are you more moderate and think homosexuality should be illegal.

**Frownland** · 06-24-2016, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

Uhhh.....I beg to differ...you threw any gays off a buliding today in Cali? Or are you more moderate and think homosexuality should be illegal.

Please don't become a Muslim ever.

The Batlord · 06-24-2016, 09:22 AM

My main issue with Brexit, aside from them leaving a power block that actually made them a player on the world stage, is that these "short term" economic losses will be happening in a time where the global economy has not recovered, no matter how much liberal pundits want to pretend otherwise just to rep Obama. Whether or not this seriously affects the world economy itself, I don't see how the UK taking an economic hit in this climate won't have a cascading effect that will last far longer than Brexit supporters are willing to admit.

midnight rain · 06-24-2016, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

My main issue with Brexit, aside from them leaving a power block that actually made them a player on the world stage, is that these "short term" economic losses will be happening in a time where the global economy has not recovered, no matter how much liberal pundits want to pretend otherwise just to rep Obama. Whether or not this seriously affects the world economy itself, I don't see how the UK taking an economic hit in this climate won't have a cascading effect that will last far longer than Brexit supporters are willing to admit.

It does nothing but negatively effect other countries, on top of negatively effecting Britain.

As for Britain, they've lost the all-important economic bridge between Europe and the rest of the world and I don't see how they aren't appreciating the glaring detail of losing their role as a major international financial center. Russia also now has a greater tilt over the European world, without Britain having a foothold.

midnight rain · 06-24-2016, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody

I agree, I sympathize with people in the UK being frustrated with the rate of immigration, particularly under Tony Blair's Labor Party, but the xenophobic chest beating of the Brexit campaign is equally depressing, especially after the tragic incident in Yorkshire.

At the end of the day, politics is about improving life expectancy and standard of livings, and in the long run, I can't see becoming a little island with no voice in one the world's biggest economic powerhouse being a benefit to the UK's standard of living or global significance in the long run.

And as stated by myself and others, you can guarantee that the Scott's will have another vote for independence on the first economic downturn if Brexit wins. I would trust Cameron over Boris and Farage on this one.

This post needs re-posting, nice level-headed perspective.

**Goofle** · 06-24-2016, 02:34 PM

What matters is the outcome. You can agree or disagree, but the sins of the voters are essentially irrelevant. People can spend all day chastising a percentage of remain voters as racist, but that does not change the positives and negatives of the decision.

Lisnaholic · 06-24-2016, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by midnight rain

It does nothing but negatively effect other countries, on top of negatively effecting Britain.

As for Britain, they've lost the all-important economic bridge between Europe and the rest of the world and I don't see how they aren't appreciating the glaring detail of losing their role as a major international financial center. Russia also now has a greater tilt over the European world, without Britain having a foothold.

^ Yes, Brexit is opening a can of worms for other countries too, especially the EU ones. Yes, international investors will probably avoid investing in Britain for some time, but I don't see us "losing their role as an international financial center."
After all, international finance whizzes round the world between 3 major centers; New York, London, Tokyo. Why should that change?

Lisnaholic · 06-24-2016, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

What matters is the outcome. You can agree or disagree, but the sins of the voters are essentially irrelevant. People can spend all day chastising a percentage of remain voters as racist, but that does not change the positives and negatives of the decision.

^ Yep, accusations of being anti-Muslim or racist -or even Xenophobic- are wide of the mark.
These are very different traits from a desire to have sovereign control of immigration into a country which is small and already crowded.

**Goofle** · 06-24-2016, 02:54 PM

Obviously a large amount of people voted to leave based on backwards ideals, and these people are a problem. But they are also still human beings that have a right to vote.

**Frownland** · 06-24-2016, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

Obviously a large amount of people voted to leave based on backwards ideals, and these people are a problem. But they are also still human beings that have a right to vote.

Is this all in response to a bigger discussion I'm not seeing where people are saying otherwise?