Brexit? Yay or Nay.

William_the_Bloody · 07-04-2016, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Lilja

Going back to the main topic of Brexit.

If I were British, I probably would be shouting "Oh come on!" right now after seeing this. As I am not...well pretty much just rolling my eyes. Did he think that "Leave Eu" means leave any responsibility behind like Bojo?

Douglas Carswell brands Nigel Farage as UKIP leader resigns

I think were getting a bird's eye view into what happens when fringe candidates are given the reigns of power.

Boris Johnson and Farage are colourful populists, but they're are not individuals I'd trust to give the keys of Westminster to...apparently they feel the same way.

William_the_Bloody · 07-04-2016, 11:20 AM

Wow! for someone who used to be involved in politics it's very hard for me not to comment on a major event, but what's going on in the UK right now is mind blowing!

Conservative Party:

Some insight into the whole Boris Johnson affair. Doesn't absolve Johnson for bowing out in my eyes, but I'm not at all surprised by this, when it comes to power, the snakes are always waiting in the weeds.

Why Michael Gove

Boris Johnson allies accuse Michael Gove of being a 'Machiavellian psychopath' who plotted to win leadership 'from the beginning'

Labour Party

The Labour Party is about to erupt into a an all out civil war between the Corbyn supporters and the Blairites.

Labour Party coup: Angela Eagle goes public with threat to run against Jeremy Corbyn unless he resigns

UKIP

Carswell is happy that Farage has finally resigned, in fairness to Farage, he never wanted the power to lead the country, and I think he knows he's made to many gaffes. If UKIP wants to move on, he needs to go.

The thing I've learned about being involved in politics is that the top people are not necessarily the most insightful or philosophical people, but rather just people with strong personalities. When it comes to power, I've noticed that there are an abnormal amount of of strong type A aggressive personalities hanging around in politics, so what's going on in both the UK's major parties should be interesting to watch.

William_the_Bloody · 07-05-2016, 12:49 AM

This is really interesting, the Young Turks of course is a pretty biased news sight, but I like watching things on the left and right and I Cenk raised my eyebrow here...though it could be nothing.

Michael Gove's wife raises Boris Johnson leadership concerns in leaked email | UK Politics | News | The Independent

and things could get interesting in the Labour Party with the Chilcot report, which is to be released in the coming days.

Jeremy Corbyn Labour coup designed to stop him 'calling for Tony Blair's head' after Chilcot report, says Alex Salmond | UK Politics | News | The Independent

djchameleon · 07-05-2016, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Wow! "I've done my bit," he sounds like a jackass. No vision. No plan. No sense of responsibility. Just, apparently, a hatred for the EU and an expectation that someone else should pick up the pieces.

I feel the same could be said about the voters that ended up voting to leave. They were very short sighted and misinformed.

RoxyRollah · 07-05-2016, 04:08 AM

They can go it alone. For **** sakes....It was the Empire on wgich the sun never set. My god. And let that be a lesson to us from our cousins.

**Janszoon** · 07-05-2016, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

They can go it alone. For **** sakes....It was the Empire on wgich the sun never set. My god. And let that be a lesson to us from our cousins.

Let what be a lesson? They were once an empire, during a very different era, and now they're not. See also Spain, Portugal, France, Italy, Greece, Turkey, Egypt, etc.

RoxyRollah · 07-05-2016, 05:12 AM

You missed the lesson I see..... Lets take OUR COUNTRY BACK. THAT WAS THE LESSON.

**Janszoon** · 07-05-2016, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

You missed the lesson I see..... Lets take OUR COUNTRY BACK. THAT WAS THE LESSON.

Because a former empire went into decline, joined a collection of similar countries to improve their situation, then voted to leave that group, it's a lesson to a country that has a completely different situation? How? What do you want to take the country back from? Also, why are you screaming?

RoxyRollah · 07-05-2016, 06:23 AM

Im not screaming.

RoxyRollah · 07-05-2016, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Because a former empire went into decline, joined a collection of similar countries to improve their situation, then voted to leave that group, it's a lesson to a country that has a completely different situation? How? What do you want to take the country back from? Also, why are you screaming?

Janszy are you really that naive? The E.U. isn't there to help any nation brother. Its 28 bureaucrats that are UNELECTED that sit in Brussels and funnel the taxes from the countries inside the E.U. into their personal bank accounts or frivolously spend it on things they never ask THE PEOPLE about. It destroyed Greece for exsample.

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William_the_Bloody Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Sunnydale Cemetary Posts: 2,093	Wow! for someone who used to be involved in politics it's very hard for me not to comment on a major event, but what's going on in the UK right now is mind blowing! Conservative Party: Some insight into the whole Boris Johnson affair. Doesn't absolve Johnson for bowing out in my eyes, but I'm not at all surprised by this, when it comes to power, the snakes are always waiting in the weeds. Why Michael Gove Boris Johnson allies accuse Michael Gove of being a 'Machiavellian psychopath' who plotted to win leadership 'from the beginning' Labour Party The Labour Party is about to erupt into a an all out civil war between the Corbyn supporters and the Blairites. Labour Party coup: Angela Eagle goes public with threat to run against Jeremy Corbyn unless he resigns UKIP Carswell is happy that Farage has finally resigned, in fairness to Farage, he never wanted the power to lead the country, and I think he knows he's made to many gaffes. If UKIP wants to move on, he needs to go. The thing I've learned about being involved in politics is that the top people are not necessarily the most insightful or philosophical people, but rather just people with strong personalities. When it comes to power, I've noticed that there are an abnormal amount of of strong type A aggressive personalities hanging around in politics, so what's going on in both the UK's major parties should be interesting to watch.

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William_the_Bloody Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Sunnydale Cemetary Posts: 2,093	This is really interesting, the Young Turks of course is a pretty biased news sight, but I like watching things on the left and right and I Cenk raised my eyebrow here...though it could be nothing. Michael Gove's wife raises Boris Johnson leadership concerns in leaked email \| UK Politics \| News \| The Independent and things could get interesting in the Labour Party with the Chilcot report, which is to be released in the coming days. Jeremy Corbyn Labour coup designed to stop him 'calling for Tony Blair's head' after Chilcot report, says Alex Salmond \| UK Politics \| News \| The Independent