The Christianity Thread

[Zhanteimi]

From what I read in that interview, Francis compared ISIS' interpretation of the Qur'an in setting out to conquer in the name of Islam with how some might interpret Jesus' sending out of His disciples to "conquer" the world in the name of Christ.

[Janszoon]

Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

Ill do you one better Ill put it in the wow I CAN believe that news story thread.

Not sure why you couldn't just post it here. Anyway, I just took a look at it and saw the part you're talking about which you seem to be really mischaracterizing. Here it is for anyone who wants to read it:

Pope Francis: Today, I don’t think that there is a fear of Islam as such but of ISIS and its war of conquest, which is partly drawn from Islam. It is true that the idea of conquest is inherent in the soul of Islam. However, it is also possible to interpret the objective in Matthew’s Gospel, where Jesus sends his disciples to all nations, in terms of the same idea of conquest.

In the face of Islamic terrorism, it would therefore be better to question ourselves about the way in an overly Western model of democracy has been exported to countries such as Iraq, where a strong government previously existed. Or in Libya, where a tribal structure exists. We cannot advance without taking these cultures into account. As a Libyan said recently, “We used to have one Gaddafi, now we have fifty.”

Ultimately, co-existence between Christians and Muslims is still possible. I come from a country where they co-habit on good terms. Muslims come to venerate the Virgin Mary and St George. Similarly, they tell me that for the Jubilee Year Muslims in one African country formed a long queue at the cathedral to enter through the holy door and pray to the Virgin Mary. In Central Africa, before the war, Christians and Muslims used to live together and must learn to do so again. Lebanon also shows that this is possible.

Sounds a lot more like he's comparing Christianity to Islam than Jesus to ISIS.

[RoxyRollah]

Interpretation is everything^. Because Islam and Christianity have the same principles.

[RoxyRollah]

Also I started that thread for a flipping reason. ......Because I can believe that news story.

[Janszoon]

Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

Interpretation is everything^. Because Islam and Christianity have the same principles.

Yes, and your interpretation is at odds with what he appears to actually have been saying.

[RoxyRollah]

Originally Posted by mordwyr

From what I read in that interview, Francis compared ISIS' interpretation of the Qur'an in setting out to conquer in the name of Islam with how some might interpret Jesus' sending out of His disciples to "conquer" the world in the name of Christ.

No where in the bible does it tell you to conquer.Its says go ye to the far corners of the world and preach the gospel . Not dominated and push people into submission.

[RoxyRollah]

Originally Posted by Janszoon

Yes, and your interpretation is at odds with what he appears to actually have been saying.

Not really. If you think about.

[Zhanteimi]

Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

No where in the bible does it tell you to conquer.Its says go ye to the far corners of the world and preach the gospel . Not dominated and push people into submission.

Yeah. I know. You know. But some people don't know. Some people misinterpret the Bible. That's what the Pope is saying in this instance. Much evil--and conquest!--has been done in Jesus' Name.

[Janszoon]

Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

Not really. If you think about.

Yes really. I have thought about it. He clearly is comparing the two religions with eachother and talking about how they can coexist.

[Zhanteimi]

Actually, I think he's comparing misinterpretations, not how they can coexist.

Because they can't.