The Islam Thread

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Originally Posted by mordwyr

In university, my friend and I were walking back from the cafeteria after supper and happened upon a girl, a freshman, breaking her CDs by dashing them against the pavement. We were like wtf? And she was like, secular music is sinful. So we were like, can we have them then? But she wouldn't give them to us. A crying shame. I saw a lot of great music shattered that night.

Even as a Christian myself, I don't get that at all.

Why did she have the music at all if it was sinful?

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Such a shame.

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[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by mordwyr

I think she had just had some kind of conversion. I knew her before, and she was a foul-mouthed flirt. And then BAM! Smashing her Smashing Pumpkins CDs.

At least some good came out of it.

[kibbeh]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Was there anything within the general vicinity of the beach that would warrant shooting at? Whether the Israelis were careful is one issue, but if they were firing on a legitimate target and missed, then that's not terrorism.

I mean, did they just kind of arbitrarily decide to shoot at a beach?

'Fire at every person': Israeli soldiers reveal they were ordered to shoot to kill in Gaza combat zones – even if targets may have been civilians

Israeli Military Targets Gaza Civilians, Violates Truce

Israeli soldier: We bombed civilian targets in Gaza for entertainment

During an interview with French Le Monde newspaper in Jerusalem yesterday, the soldier who identified himself as Arieh, 20, said: “I was called to service early on July 2014 and was deployed to the Gaza Strip but until that time the operation [Operation Protective Edge] was not announced yet. Only some soldiers speculated that there will be war, but later our commander told us to imagine a 200 metre radius and to immediately shoot anything moving inside this circle.”

“We bombed civilian targets for entertainment,” he said, adding that “one day at about 8am we went to the Al-Bureij; a highly dense residential area in central Gaza, and the commander told us to select a random target and shoot it, at the time we did not see any Hamas fighters, no one shot at us, but the commander told us jokingly: ‘We have to send Bureij a morning greeting from the Israeli army’.”

they do this quite often. its what they're famous for around here. murdering civilians.

[The Batlord]

Damn. You don't generally hear **** like that in America. Like I said, we're so in bed with the Israelis, and their lobby is so powerful in our politics, that the narrative is most definitely bent way in their favor.

But yeah, that is some ****ed up ****, and clearly war crimes.

[kibbeh]

honestly the list just goes on and on. this kind of **** doesn't even shock me anymore.

Israel’s new justice minister considers all Palestinians to be ‘the enemy’

Israeli Politician Calls For Genocide Of Palestinians

Palestinian boy Mohammed Abu Khdeir was burned alive, says official

Israeli wedding party celebrates Dawabsheh killings: Video of Israeli wedding-goers dancing with guns as one stabs a photo of a killed Palestinian toddler sparks outrage.

i, personally, don't see how any of this is any better than islamic terrorism.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by pansy gayboy 69

honestly the list just goes on and on. this kind of **** doesn't even shock me anymore.

Israel’s new justice minister considers all Palestinians to be ‘the enemy’

Israeli Politician Calls For Genocide Of Palestinians

Palestinian boy Mohammed Abu Khdeir was burned alive, says official

Israeli wedding party celebrates Dawabsheh killings: Video of Israeli wedding-goers dancing with guns as one stabs a photo of a killed Palestinian toddler sparks outrage.

i, personally, don't see how any of this is any better than islamic terrorism.

I never said I considered anything like this better than terrorism, I just don't think it qualifies. If terrorism is going to have any meaningful definition then you can't just apply it to war crimes in general. It was meant to describe the actions of groups like Al Qaeda and the IRA, and it just doesn't make sense to equate them with the conventional army of a country.

[kibbeh]

terrorism = the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes. this is exactly what israel does. except they do it for land. and to get rid of the palestinians. what is the difference? israelis believes god gave them the right to palestine. and so they use violence to grab more and more land. what is the difference?