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Old 10-12-2016, 12:42 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Not even related to gun crimes, just information in general. I understand that the Govt is always going to have access to things such as your birthday, nationality, physical characteristics, etc. With this though, they could arguably (which is lovingly left out of the EO), profile at a federal level based on information they're not even supposed to have.
What kind of information would that be? I seriously can't think of anything that the government doesn't already have that would make any difference if they had it. I think you're reaching and I already told you I'm not one for alarmism.
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I can't tell you off of the top of my head, I'd have to do more research. To my knowledge there haven't been any news making cases involving this, but that could be because something like this might not be newsworthy.
The only thing I can see it being useful for is looking up case by case on a potential criminal etc. However, I won't dispute that the law enforcement has gotten a bit "trigger happy". Otherwise, I feel it's useful for people to ensure the wanted criminals they're following are actually wanted.
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What kind of information would that be? I seriously can't think of anything that the government doesn't already have that would make any difference if they had it. I think you're reaching and I already told you I'm not one for alarmism.
Maybe so; it just seems like a relatively big issue to me.

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The only thing I can see it being useful for is looking up case by case on a potential criminal etc. However, I won't dispute that the law enforcement has gotten a bit "trigger happy". Otherwise, I feel it's useful for people to ensure the wanted criminals they're following are actually wanted.
Isn't that what the FBI is for though? Why do we need yet an additional task force for something that another federal agency is supposed to be doing (in terms of keeping a database of certain things); I don't necessarily think law enforcement has gone trigger happy, I more or less think there's just much more media coverage of it.
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Maybe so; it just seems like a relatively big issue to me.
Alarmism'll do that to ya.
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Isn't that what the FBI is for though? Why do we need yet an additional task force for something that another federal agency is supposed to be doing (in terms of keeping a database of certain things); I don't necessarily think law enforcement has gone trigger happy, I more or less think there's just much more media coverage of it.
Fair enough. But at the same time, you're under the assumption that the information they'd be sending is in any way a detriment to the person involved. They could literally just be getting their birth date as far as we know.
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Fair enough. But at the same time, you're under the assumption that the information they'd be sending is in any way a detriment to the person involved. They could literally just be getting their birth date as far as we know.
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If that were the case, all websites that ask for your birth date should no longer do so.
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