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Frownland 05-19-2017 01:52 PM

Also if Muller being insulted about his buddy or his relationship with Comey affects the outcome of the case, he should be fired too because that's the exact opposite of how justice works.

Chula Vista 05-19-2017 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1837424)
Also if Muller being insulted about his buddy or his relationship with Comey affects the outcome of the case, he should be fired too because that's the exact opposite of how justice works.

Of course. Speaking of Justice, how about commenting on the actual content of the bombshell instead of focusing on who published it.

Trump admits he fires Comey specifically because of the Russia probe. On a scale of 1 to 10, how's that sit on your justice scale?

Frownland 05-19-2017 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1837425)
Of course. Speaking of Justice, how about commenting on the actual content of the bombshell instead of focusing on who published it.

I can't confirm an anonymous leak. That's actually the main reason why I think they should have chosen a better outlet if they are genuine.

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“I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job,” Mr. Trump said, according to the document, which was read to The New York Times by an American official. “I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.”

Mr. Trump added, “I’m not under investigation.”
The American official could be Kathy Davis for all I know. I'm just saying don't put all of your money on this horse just yet.

elphenor 05-19-2017 02:08 PM

NYT has a corporate and pro-establishment bias that's inherent in the very way media works in the 21st century

The partisanship is really the result of the right moving way outside the lines

Frownland 05-19-2017 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1837431)
NYT has a corporate and pro-establishment bias that's inherent in the very way media works in the 21st century

The partisanship is really the result of the right moving way outside the lines

It's a result $$$$, hands down. Who has time for nuance or subtlety? Just tell me what I already know, journalist dorks.

Chula Vista 05-19-2017 02:12 PM

Sean Spicer released a statement where he didn't deny what Trump said at all. He can't. It's an official record at this point.

His spin is that it's all about Trump trying to build up relations with Russia, and that the leak itself is the big story.

Obstruction of Justice is lurking around the corner.

And now Trump is on this huge overseas junket and he's going to have to be dealing with reporters shouting out questions about Russia rather than what he wants the visit to be about.

Numerous talking heads are saying there's going to be some very tense meetings behind closed doors with the officials he's meeting with over what's gone down the past 10 days and how much they can trust Trump and his administration.

elphenor 05-19-2017 02:13 PM

Mainstream Media is about "Manufacturing Consent" as Chomsky put it

If you ignore all his politics, and only read one of his books that's the one I consider essential

Frownland 05-19-2017 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean Spicer
By grandstanding and politicizing the investigation into Russia’s actions, James Comey created unnecessary pressure on our ability to engage and negotiate with Russia. The investigation would have always continued, and obviously, the termination of Comey would not have ended it. Once again, the real story is that our national security has been undermined by the leaking of private and highly classified conversations.

Meh, it could potentially be a weapon but it's no smoking gun.

Chula Vista 05-19-2017 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1837412)
"I just fired the FBI director. He was crazy, a real nut job. I was under great pressure over the Russian probe. This will ease that."

Read it again.

Frownland 05-19-2017 02:31 PM

Hearsay =/= smoking gun

Like, ever.

There's no reason to believe that it's true and equally no reason to believe that it isn't. I'm just so sick of the media breathlessly repeating things without verifying them just because it makes Trump or whoever they don't like look bad.


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