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Frownland 06-23-2017 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1849158)
I guess being a successful businessman vs. knowing how to successfully run businesses is more on point.

Bingo. Well, half bingo. Not all business is created equal, and branding is a business of its own. So successfully branding yourself (note that this is not the same as positively branding yourself; think Kim Kardashian - getting people to talk about how much they hate you can be 90% of your brand awareness that you can use to leverage advertisers) is essentially successfully running a business, even if you are not successful with various business ventures over a few decades.

Anteater 06-23-2017 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1849157)
It's so weird to me that people think branding and business are two different things. Some businesses get paid billions to handle other people's business's branding.

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Janszoon 06-23-2017 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1849157)
It's so weird to me that people think branding and business are two different things. Some businesses get paid billions to handle other people's business's branding.

They are two different things. Some businesses may be plumbing businesses, but that doesn't mean business and plumbing are the same thing.

OccultHawk 06-23-2017 02:40 PM

****ng Christ

Is this a music forum or a goddamn dictionary discussion group

Defining **** all the time. Wtf.

I have a branding business called Sony the Plumber.

I like The Weeknd and Nicolas Jaar

Anteater 06-23-2017 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1849167)
They are two different things. Some businesses may be plumbing businesses, but that doesn't mean business and plumbing are the same thing.

Nope. Plumbing is the service being provided, but without the business infrastructure around it then its just a hobby. Branding and business are so deeply intertwined with one another that even at the community level a business's success or failure almost always depends on branding / awareness.

The Batlord 06-23-2017 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1849172)
Nope. Plumbing is the service being provided, but without the business infrastructure around it then its just a hobby. Branding and business are so deeply intertwined with one another that even at the community level a business's success or failure almost always depends on branding / awareness.

Kim K 4 prez

Frownland 06-23-2017 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1849167)
They are two different things. Some businesses may be plumbing businesses, but that doesn't mean business and plumbing are the same thing.

A successful plumbing business probably does a lot of ___________.

A: businessing
B: carpentry
C: cocaine
D: plumbing

My point was that if branding is your business, being good at branding is being a good businessman given that your skills further the company. I often see how Trump's branding is brought up as if that makes him distinct from being a good businessman, and that's an incredibly shaky premise given that branding is his endgame.

Frownland 06-23-2017 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1849171)
****ng Christ

Is this a music forum or a goddamn dictionary discussion group

Defining **** all the time. Wtf.

I have a branding business called Sony the Plumber.

Defining the premises of discussion allows discussions to go deeper than a disagreement.

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I like The Weeknd
Disapprove.

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and Nicolas Jaar
Approve.

Janszoon 06-23-2017 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1849172)
Nope. Plumbing is the service being provided, but without the business infrastructure around it then its just a hobby. Branding and business are so deeply intertwined with one another that even at the community level a business's success or failure almost always depends on branding / awareness.

Good luck having functioning corporate offices without plumbing.

There are many things that are deeply intertwined with business. It doesn't make them the same thing as business.

Janszoon 06-23-2017 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1849178)
A successful plumbing business probably does a lot of ___________.

A: businessing
B: carpentry
C: cocaine
D: plumbing

My point was that if branding is your business, being good at branding is being a good businessman given that your skills further the company. I often see how Trump's branding is brought up as if that makes him distinct from being a good businessman, and that's an incredibly shaky premise given that branding is his endgame.

Branding isn't his endgame, lining his pockets is.


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