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DwnWthVwls 06-23-2017 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1849240)
Dude. They are not MY arguments. I don't live there so I have to rely on dozens and dozens of TV, online, press, and other media sources. You wanna diss on anyone? Diss on the vast majority of the various information sources that have been out there for a over a decade documenting how Trump ****ed up Atlantic City.

If you have some inside info that absolves Trump, spill it.

I get sick of the number of times some of you jump on me as if I'm some kind of ****ing idiot that doesn't research both sides of an issue before posting an "OPINION" on this forum.
I'm not absolving Trump. I'm simply pointing out (as I usually do whenever I come to this thread), that there are MULTIPLE REASONS behind the downfall of Atlantic City. You just like to grab shitty things Trump does and exaggerate the hell out of them to justify your position. Trump did not single handedly destroy Atlantic City. I'm not arguing anything about Trump, I'm just saying you are factually wrong.

Anteater 06-23-2017 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1849195)
And 40% has stiffed and ruined millions of people and even local economies. It's not all about Trump making money for himself. The guy has a decades long history of stiffing people for his own benefit. If you consider that a successful businessman then I don't know what to say.

And of that 60% a huge chunk of it is him just pimping out his name to overseas lapdogs who have tons of money to throw away on Trump's celebrity status.

I don't admire that. I understand why you do though.
You do realize that out of the hundreds of millions he generates a big chunk of that goes to payroll in some form or fashion right? Any business as large as his has to write off a lot every year just to remain somewhat profitable.

Stop being passive-aggressive and try to think about what actually goes into a global enterprise for 5 seconds.

OccultHawk 06-23-2017 05:12 PM
Ban him, Frowny!!!

OccultHawk 06-23-2017 05:13 PM
5 seconds goddamnit!

Chula Vista 06-23-2017 05:17 PM
So if I don't have first hand knowledge, and have to to rely on everything that's available via dozens of various media and online sources, exactly what am I supposed to do to supplant you ****ers with my opinions?

Rather than jumping on me and what you call "my biases" how about you come up with something to counter the vast majority overview of the actual issue?

Post something that actually proves that Trump didn't **** Atlantic City over big time. That is the subject here. Not what I have to say on the subject.

Come on, provide some defense to what I've said other than "because you said it, it sucks". I dare you.

Chula Vista 06-23-2017 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1849253)
Stop being passive-aggressive and try to think about what actually goes into a global enterprise for 5 seconds.
Sigh......

Frownland 06-23-2017 05:24 PM
You're due for a chill pill.

DWV is not arguing that Trump didn't have any effect on Atlantic City, just that he was one of myriad factors and that it's short sighted to point to him as the key cause.

Also: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/bandwagon
The Bandwagon Fallacy
Logical Fallacies» Bandwagon Fallacy

The Batlord 06-23-2017 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1849259)
So if I don't have first hand knowledge, and have to to rely on everything that's available via dozens of various media and online sources, exactly what am I supposed to do to supplant you ****ers with my opinions?

Rather than jumping on me and what you call "my biases" how about you come up with something to counter the vast majority overview of the actual issue?

Post something that actually proves that Trump didn't **** Atlantic City over big time. That is the subject here. Not what I have to say on the subject.

Come on, provide some defense to what I've said other than "because you said it, it sucks". I dare you.
You didn't really give us anything to defend against, unless there was a link to a source or two that I missed. You just kind of dropped an opinion and walked off. That's not how debates work.

DwnWthVwls 06-23-2017 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1849259)
So if I don't have first hand knowledge, and have to to rely on everything that's available via dozens of various media and online sources, exactly what am I supposed to do to supplant you ****ers with my opinions?

Rather than jumping on me and what you call "my biases" how about you come up with something to counter the vast majority overview of the actual issue?

Post something that actually proves that Trump didn't **** Atlantic City over big time. That is the subject here. Not what I have to say on the subject.

Come on, provide some defense to what I've said other than "because you said it, it sucks". I dare you.
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1849263)
DWV is not arguing that Trump didn't have any effect on Atlantic City, just that he was one of myriad factors and that it's short sighted to point to him as the key cause.
What Frown said.. and if you want one of the many examples of the downfall of AC that you can read about with a simple google search, you should try looking into the Revel Casino.

Chula Vista 06-23-2017 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1849259)
Post something that actually proves that Trump didn't **** Atlantic City over big time.
I'm waiting.

I'm not saying other things weren't at play. But admit Trump helped to **** your city over big time.

Or don't.


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