kibbeh

lol so what if his name is hussein

first of all having an arabic name doesn't make you a muslim second of all, even if he was a muslim, who cares. isn't it supposed to be a 'free country'? why shouldn't a muslim run for president.

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Key

You obviously missed the origin of this back and forth. I'm not saying there is anything wrong. What I'm saying is in response to what Nea originally said:

He's under the assumption that Obama portrayed fueling the fire in the same sense that Trump seems to be doing. Which is inaccurate since Obama did show his birth certificate due to an outcry because of his middle name.

kibbeh

yeah, i wasn't directing that at you, i was just saying about how americans would've freaked out if obama was a muslim who ****in cares

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Well again, it was due to the whole deal with Sadam Hussein. Barack Obama having the same middle name as an Iraq president raised some concerns. Especially with Barack Obama taking the highest seat in the country. I'm not saying it's right that the country freaked out, but you and Nea are assuming people in this country aren't dumb enough to think that such a thing would actually be accurate.

I don't think it'd had been much of a big deal had Sadam Hussein not been so "famous".

kibbeh

so if saddam had a different first name like joseph or tony or something and then a guy with the same name ran for president, people would freak out? that's retarded. but i know a lot of americans are stupid that way.

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Key

Well that's not entirely my point but I think you know what I mean. When Obama was elected for his first term, the fact that he was the first black president raised some concern with people. Tagging on the fact that Hussein was his middle name raised more concerns. So much to the fact that releasing his birth certificate was the only way to justify it. Which he then did.

Hussein on its own raised alarm because of the obvious and what Saddam Hussein was known for. So yeah, I guess if his name was James and he did do the same things as Saddam Hussein, there'd be concern. But that's not what happened.

kibbeh

many african americans have arabic or middle eastern names. doesn't make them muslims.

also i think the USA is the same as lebanon in that you must be christian to be able to run for president.

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Key

Well in the US you have to have been born in the US in order to run. I don't know about the Christianity thing. But again, you also have to take into the fact that Obama was elected after George W. Bush. The same George W. Bush people believed allowed the war on terrorism and the Iraq invasion etc. It was just a completely ****ed up situation that Obama then had to take on. So with the Iraq invasion and the fact that his name shared the same as Saddam (the same Saddam that was involved in the Iraq War), the outcry was to be expected.

Key

Ah ****. That's right. I had a brain fart. I was more focusing on my point so I missed the obvious.

kibbeh

it's one of those things that americans say is not a factor but we all know it is. i'd like to see americans elect an atheist or druze or something. has there ever been a non-christian president in the US?

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