What Did President Trump Do Now?

**Frownland** · 06-23-2017, 04:24 PM

You're due for a chill pill.

DWV is not arguing that Trump didn't have any effect on Atlantic City, just that he was one of myriad factors and that it's short sighted to point to him as the key cause.

Also: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/bandwagon
The Bandwagon Fallacy
Logical Fallacies» Bandwagon Fallacy

The Batlord · 06-23-2017, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

So if I don't have first hand knowledge, and have to to rely on everything that's available via dozens of various media and online sources, exactly what am I supposed to do to supplant you ****ers with my opinions?

Rather than jumping on me and what you call "my biases" how about you come up with something to counter the vast majority overview of the actual issue?

Post something that actually proves that Trump didn't **** Atlantic City over big time. That is the subject here. Not what I have to say on the subject.

Come on, provide some defense to what I've said other than "because you said it, it sucks". I dare you.

You didn't really give us anything to defend against, unless there was a link to a source or two that I missed. You just kind of dropped an opinion and walked off. That's not how debates work.

DwnWthVwls · 06-23-2017, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chula Vista

So if I don't have first hand knowledge, and have to to rely on everything that's available via dozens of various media and online sources, exactly what am I supposed to do to supplant you ****ers with my opinions?

Rather than jumping on me and what you call "my biases" how about you come up with something to counter the vast majority overview of the actual issue?

Post something that actually proves that Trump didn't **** Atlantic City over big time. That is the subject here. Not what I have to say on the subject.

Come on, provide some defense to what I've said other than "because you said it, it sucks". I dare you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland

DWV is not arguing that Trump didn't have any effect on Atlantic City, just that he was one of myriad factors and that it's short sighted to point to him as the key cause.

What Frown said.. and if you want one of the many examples of the downfall of AC that you can read about with a simple google search, you should try looking into the Revel Casino.

Chula Vista · 06-23-2017, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Post something that actually proves that Trump didn't **** Atlantic City over big time.

I'm waiting.

I'm not saying other things weren't at play. But admit Trump helped to **** your city over big time.

Or don't.

**Frownland** · 06-23-2017, 04:47 PM

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/..._the_Goalposts

Had a baby with

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

And thus Chula's argument was born.

Chula Vista · 06-23-2017, 04:52 PM

You are so predictable.......

I source online data, and then you use online data to refute my online data.

I'm taking a nap now.

**Frownland** · 06-23-2017, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

You are so predictable.......

I tell tales of online data backing up my point about a complex scenario, and then you use online data covering well established logical concepts to refute my garbage logic tactics.

I'm taking a nap now.

Just because I'm predictable doesn't mean I'm a bad businessman.

OccultHawk · 06-23-2017, 05:34 PM

Isn't the onus of proof on the one making the allegation? Prove YOU'RE not the one who ****ed over Atlantic City, Chula.

Ban him, Frowny.

**Frownland** · 06-23-2017, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Isn't the onus of proof on the one making the allegation? Prove YOU'RE not the one who ****ed over Atlantic City, Chula.

The burden of proof lies on whoever has the most cameras on them.

Quote:

Ban him, Frowny.

He's too fun!

OccultHawk · 06-23-2017, 05:43 PM

The paparazzi has to prove Trump killed Atlantic City? Da fuq?

06-23-2017, 04:24 PM	#5611 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	You're due for a chill pill. DWV is not arguing that Trump didn't have any effect on Atlantic City, just that he was one of myriad factors and that it's short sighted to point to him as the key cause. Also: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/bandwagon The Bandwagon Fallacy Logical Fallacies» Bandwagon Fallacy __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

06-23-2017, 04:47 PM	#5615 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/..._the_Goalposts Had a baby with https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man And thus Chula's argument was born. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

06-23-2017, 04:52 PM	#5616 (permalink)
Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	You are so predictable....... I source online data, and then you use online data to refute my online data. I'm taking a nap now. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

06-23-2017, 05:34 PM	#5618 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,033	Isn't the onus of proof on the one making the allegation? Prove YOU'RE not the one who ****ed over Atlantic City, Chula. Ban him, Frowny. __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html

06-23-2017, 05:43 PM	#5620 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,033	The paparazzi has to prove Trump killed Atlantic City? Da fuq? __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html